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Old 11-15-2011, 02:30 PM   #16
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Not cool man.

If you look close, it looks like they might be doing some product testing. Is that a Giant Loop in the background.

Pic is from their site.

Interesting supermoto/ADV/wr250x.
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:42 PM   #17
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Assholes.

I sent contact@pitsterpro.com an e-mail, asking if they own Nomad Rider.
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:58 PM   #18
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Looks like someone has decided to knock-off Giant Loop products. Lets hope they see the error of their ways. http://nomadrider.com/

I suspect some of the ratings and reviews for these products on nomadrider to be of dubious origin (or at least mistaken identity with the respondees believing they are reviewing GL bags....I'd be suprised if the knock-offs have been around long enough for so many reviews to have accumulated already).

There is a discussion on this subject over on the vendors forum.

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Old 11-15-2011, 03:03 PM   #19
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This is being discussed in venders too.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740919
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:46 PM   #20
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I suspect some of the ratings and reviews for these products on nomadrider to be of dubious origin (or at least mistaken identity with the respondees believing they are reviewing GL bags....I'd be suprised if the knock-offs have been around long enough for so many reviews to have accumulated already).

There is a discussion on this subject over on the vendors forum.

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This is being discussed in venders too.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740919
I've was in on that discussion a couple of days ago.
It was pretty well discussed, both sides of the issue,
without getting too pissy, but I haven't checked back in yet since then.
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:49 PM   #21
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I've was in on that discussion a couple of days ago.
It was pretty well discussed, both sides of the issue,
without getting too pissy, but I haven't checked back in yet since then.
Uh.

That may have changed today.

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Old 11-15-2011, 03:51 PM   #22
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Uh.

That may have changed today.

I knew the piss was gonna rain down sometime,

that's kinda why I avoided checking in there, today
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:55 PM   #23
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I knew the piss was gonna rain down sometime,

that's kinda why I avoided checking in there, today
When you gotta go, you gotta go.

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Old 11-15-2011, 04:04 PM   #24
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How can it come directly from the factory in China, I am almost positive Giant Loop Products made in the USA? Im sorry to see this happen to such a great company...
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:08 PM   #25
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I suspect some of the ratings and reviews for these products on nomadrider to be of dubious origin (or at least mistaken identity with the respondees believing they are reviewing GL bags....I'd be suprised if the knock-offs have been around long enough for so many reviews to have accumulated already).

There is a discussion on this subject over on the vendors forum.

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Old 11-15-2011, 04:40 PM   #26
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Not cool man.

If you look close, it looks like they might be doing some product testing. Is that a Giant Loop in the background.

Pic is from their site.

Interesting supermoto/ADV/wr250x.
wow looks lke it went through a sticker factory and everything stuck
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:49 PM   #27
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I'm not familiar with Giant Loop ...

Either way I don't think having competition is a bad thing. The knock off was probably just reverse engineered and sold for half the cost.
You might want to research Giant Loop stuff before commenting on this. Wachs (member here) designed/developed these bags, and the Giant Loop company, and has written some pretty awesome ride reports about living off a dirtbike on week long trips away from civilization.

Stealing someone else's idea just to make a buck is a bad thing. It's dishonest, and it discourages innovation. Why come up with a better product when some jackwhang is just going to copy it and make money off your idea?
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:50 PM   #28
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wow looks lke it went through a sticker factory and everything stuck
yeah, it's definitely got the "boy racer" thing going on.
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:13 PM   #29
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Yes, GL products are designed right here in Bend and made in Los Angeles, Ca.

edit: Hey, these Nomad Rider fools have a Facebook page. Feel free to tell them how you feel about their ripped off product ideas...https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nomad...520883?sk=wall
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:42 PM   #30
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You might want to research Giant Loop stuff before commenting on this. Wachs (member here) designed/developed these bags, and the Giant Loop company, and has written some pretty awesome ride reports about living off a dirtbike on week long trips away from civilization.

Stealing someone else's idea just to make a buck is a bad thing. It's dishonest, and it discourages innovation. Why come up with a better product when some jackwhang is just going to copy it and make money off your idea?
I'm aware of who they are although I've never met them and only seen the product in a showroom. If KTM made the bag and a couple of local guys copied it and sold it for half price would there be an issue? I see a bunch of aluminum panniers being built by members here and sold cheap. Does anybody feel bad for HT?

Of course nobody likes a blatant copy but when you charge a premuim price for a product you are asking for competition. They were first to market and were able to price the product as they wanted. By pricing it high though they left plenty of room for competition.

Top companies are always copied and that leads them to come up with better products. If they don't innovate the bottom feeders kill them. If they do innovate they enjoy another period of pricing product where they want until the crowd catches up.

It sucks to always have people copying and undercutting you but that's how it works when you are the only game in town.
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