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Old 11-15-2011, 06:34 PM   #31
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Old 11-15-2011, 06:54 PM   #32
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Of course nobody likes a blatant copy but when you charge a premuim price for a product you are asking for competition. They were first to market and were able to price the product as they wanted. By pricing it high though they left plenty of room for competition.

Top companies are always copied and that leads them to come up with better products. If they don't innovate the bottom feeders kill them. If they do innovate they enjoy another period of pricing product where they want until the crowd catches up.

It sucks to always have people copying and undercutting you but that's how it works when you are the only game in town.[/QUOTE]

There is wisdom and truth to the above. Me, I like my GL.



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Old 11-15-2011, 07:12 PM   #33
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:41 PM   #34
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Quit bitching and buy local

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Chinese and other 3rd world manufacturers will continue to kick our asses as long as we continue to buy their shit. Vote with your wallet and keep your dollars in the US, preferably as close to your local community as possible.

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Old 11-15-2011, 07:42 PM   #35
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If KTM made the bag and a couple of local guys copied it and sold it for half price would there be an issue?
Yes, I think there would be an issue. The patent/copyright issues come up here on a regular basis when someone wants to copy a part for their own use; that's debatable, but I'm surprised anyone here (meaning you) would be OK with a direct copy of someone's product, for the purpose of making money.

Look at the pictures; this Nomad stuff looks like a direct copy, but without the GL logo. I'm all for competition, but these guys have obviously stolen GL's design. If they had produced a bag that was similar in purpose, but somehow different and not just a copy, that would be different.

Maybe the concepts of dishonesty and stealing are lost on some people?
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:53 PM   #36
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Yes, GL products are designed right here in Bend and made in Los Angeles, Ca.

edit: Hey, these Nomad Rider fools have a Facebook page. Feel free to tell them how you feel about their ripped off product ideas...https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nomad...520883?sk=wall
Hey Brad thanks for the heads up. I just posted my thoughts.
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:53 PM   #37
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NAFTA: Looks like it's working, you know who to thank for that.


How is the North American Free Trade Agrrement to blame for an American guy ripping off designs and having them produced in Asia?

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Old 11-15-2011, 08:11 PM   #38
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I'm aware of who they are although I've never met them and only seen the product in a showroom. If KTM made the bag and a couple of local guys copied it and sold it for half price would there be an issue? I see a bunch of aluminum panniers being built by members here and sold cheap. Does anybody feel bad for HT?

Of course nobody likes a blatant copy but when you charge a premuim price for a product you are asking for competition. They were first to market and were able to price the product as they wanted. By pricing it high though they left plenty of room for competition.

Top companies are always copied and that leads them to come up with better products. If they don't innovate the bottom feeders kill them. If they do innovate they enjoy another period of pricing product where they want until the crowd catches up.

It sucks to always have people copying and undercutting you but that's how it works when you are the only game in town.
bullshit,,total bullshit!
look at Mercedes,, innovation after life saving innovation,,and they willingly give their technology away, hoping it will be copied. Hasn't hurt, but helped their bottom line.
Sure,,you can get the cheaper copy,,but you can only buy the original item, if you buy it for the quality.
As said before,,the GL guys did hands on testing, take it out and ride it!toss that idea, try another,,for years of development time invested.

I'm not in the need of another luggage system, but I would not buy a cheap imitation of a parachute, a heart re-suss machine, or a copy-catted Giant Loop bag system.

Kermit chairs,,a prime example.
company sold, moved manufacturing to Mexico.
Quality went to shit.
Originator bought back company,and the shitty chairs, brought production back to USA,
quality returns,,still the finest folding camp chair there is.
Giant Loop products are like that,,get the best there is,,don't let somebody fool you.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:33 PM   #39
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No shit , there I was in Prineville topping off my dusty assed V-Strom when I here a girls voice say nice luggage. I glance over to the other side of the pump island and there is a rider on a equally dusty DRZ 400 with a Giant Loop on the back as well. Bet that doesn't happen with the cheap rip off stuff.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:51 PM   #40
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looks like the same company has a facebook page called "adv rider"

what a bunch of fucking scab-ass KOOKS

this free market? this is what some people are suggesting they have no problem with?


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Old 11-15-2011, 09:54 PM   #41
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Harold and Dave, the guys behind Giant Loop, are good and honorable guys that have created an awesome product and are involved in the community and this forum. It is a real shame to see some dirt bag make a dead-nuts copy of Giant Loop's innovative designs. I will continue to be a fan of Giant Loop and wish for bad things to happen to this copy cat.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:55 PM   #42
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chinese and other 3rd world manufacturers will continue to kick our asses as long as we continue to buy their shit. Vote with your wallet and keep your dollars in the us, preferably as close to your local community as possible.

'nuff said.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:58 PM   #43
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Assholes.

I sent contact@pitsterpro.com an e-mail, asking if they own Nomad Rider.
They do own it. I guess knock-off Chinese minibikes aren't paying the bills anymore, so they had to find something in the ADV market to copy/steal the design from.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:03 PM   #44
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It seems to me that Kawasaki might like to know that their Nomad name is being shown with the Yamaha Star Motorcycles logo and the same for Yamaha.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:14 PM   #45
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Looks like someone has decided to knock-off Giant Loop products. Lets hope they see the error of their ways. http://nomadrider.com/
Is the product protected by patent or registered design? No?

Then what is the problem; it's just good old American capitalism working exactly as it should.
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