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Old 11-17-2011, 01:37 PM   #76
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So, who here thinks that Nomad aquired the Giant Loop design honestly?
I think anybody you ask will say no, Like Crazy Brit said, it's not a legal issue (Unless they have the patent) this is more that these guys are belly sliding dirt bags.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:37 PM   #77
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So, who here thinks that Nomad aquired the Giant Loop design honestly?
It looks like they took all the GL models, and directly copied them stitch for stitch, strap for strap to me.

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Old 11-17-2011, 01:43 PM   #78
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I think anybody you ask will say no, Like Crazy Brit said, it's not a legal issue (Unless they have the patent) this is more that these guys are belly sliding dirt bags.
My thoughts exactly, but it's surprising that some here see that as a good thing.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:45 PM   #79
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So, who here thinks that Nomad aquired the Giant Loop design honestly?
Not me!



What I do see here, is an outpouring of support for GL.
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:01 PM   #80
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So, who here thinks that Nomad aquired the Giant Loop design honestly?
What definition of honestly should we use when coming up with this answer?

Are you saying that you think they should have contacted GL and asked them to licence the design. Companies don't approach other companies and ask to licence a design because they feel doing otherwise would be dishonest. They do it because they either think they'll get sued, or they were sued.

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My thoughts exactly, but it's surprising that some here see that as a good thing.
For me, it's not a good thing or a bad thing. It's just a thing. It's reality. If I were GL I'd for sure think it was a bad thing. It clearly sucks to put blood, sweat and tears into an endeavor and have someone shamelessly rip it off.

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Old 11-17-2011, 02:04 PM   #81
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So, who here thinks that Nomad aquired the Giant Loop design honestly?
I seriously doubt they acquired their samples any differently to everyone else here who owns one.
They almost certainly ordered them and paid for them.

Get over it guys, this is nothing new. If you guys had your way there would only be one company manufacturing motorcycles in the world and they would probably still be much the same as the 1901 model.
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:33 PM   #82
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I also suspect you wouldn't be so relaxed about it if you'd developed a prototype, tested it, gone through 3 or 4 more iterations, sourced the fabric, bought a load of it, found someone to build them for you, set up shipping / billing / etc... then someone ripped off your design. You'd probably feel like you put in all the work and effort so someone else could reap the rewards, which is exactly what this is.
Warm-n-safe / HeatTroller- Mike Coan had a flaky design that he fixed as soon as he discovered it, but not before it was copied by a competitor, mass produced in China and sold, including being branded and resold by a major 'merkin motorcycle company.

At one point a few years ago, First Gear sold a riding suit that was a copy of the Aerostich RoadCrafter design in all but name... and quality. It had a lots of extra "features" though.

Isn't there someone that has a knock-off of Happy Trails nerf bar setup for KLRs?

If Giant Loop has patented features in the product that are on this other stuff, it's actionable, if they can afford to go to court. Otherwise, their new marketing campaign is "so good the competition tries to copy us". They can show side by side how their gear holds up and the copy doesn't.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:17 PM   #83
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Copy cats

If Giant Loop has patented features in the product that are on this other stuff, it's actionable, if they can afford to go to court. [/QUOTE]

Yep patent suits are expensive! Plus they can drag on and on...
The comparison marketing tactic is perhaps the best ploy.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:28 PM   #84
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YBSN_KDeVA

Don't bother posting the comments unless its fake review/bs they will just delete them.

I will just make sure any friends that are looking for a bag get the GiantLoop and not some chinese bullshit clone version.
One inch webbing has a tensile strength of over 1000 pounds.

Gonad Rider connects the strap to the fork lift, and instant drama.

Their fabric couldn't do that, and very little stitching (beyond fall protection type stuff) anywhere can do that.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:29 PM   #85
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So, who here thinks that Nomad aquired the Giant Loop design honestly?
Gonad Rider stole it.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:04 PM   #86
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If you guys had your way there would only be one company manufacturing motorcycles in the world and they would probably still be much the same as the 1901 model.
That's a silly comparison to make here. Nobody's talking about only one company being able to manufacture a certain "type" of product. The issue isn't that somebody besides Giant Loop is making saddlebags. The issue is they are making an exact copy of Giant Loop's product (although probably at lower quality). A direct copy of a specific item is a lot different than two companies making similar items.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:04 PM   #87
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:11 PM   #88
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WHat would you put in all those bags anyways?
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:43 PM   #89
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I can pack my cooking and camping gear plus 4 days of food and clothes in my Giant Loop Bag.
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:58 AM   #90
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Otherwise, their new marketing campaign is "so good the competition tries to copy us". They can show side by side how their gear holds up and the copy doesn't.
There you go.

Plus, anyone who buys a cheap clone because it is cheaper gets what they deserve - you get what you pay for.
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