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Old 09-24-2013, 09:54 PM   #526
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Ha Ha, yep still alive and kickin!

I do not know the exact springrate of the shock spring. It's an aftermarket shock for the little 50cc pitbikes. I designed the swingarm around the shock, rather than sourcing a shock for a design I already completed.
Glad you're still kickin
Loving the trailer BTW !!!

Know what you mean about how the shock drives design. Very very smart the approach you took. Pit bike shocks are plentiful, proven, and cost efficient to simply replace if the existing one develops issues.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:57 PM   #527
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....Next bike?? - A twin cylinder adventure bike....
Aprilia RXV maybe;
Has a hollow rear axle .... begging for one of your Moto-Mules.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:31 AM   #528
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Laugh Thanks to Moto-Mule for helping me take the dog


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Old 10-01-2013, 12:47 PM   #529
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Question Weight and Balance?

What's the Weight and Balance for the Moto-Mule?

WEIGHTS:
Empty Weight:

Max Payload:

Gross Weight:

BALANCE:
Max Tongue Weight (at Gross) or Percentage of Gross at less weight:

Max Wheel Weight (at Gross) or Percentage of Gross at less weight:
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:09 PM   #530
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What's the Weight and Balance for the Moto-Mule?

WEIGHTS:
Empty Weight:10000lbs

Max Payload:150000

Gross Weight:160000

BALANCE:
Max Tongue Weight (at Gross) or Percentage of Gross at less weight:100%

Max Wheel Weight (at Gross) or Percentage of Gross at less weight:150%
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:00 PM   #531
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:53 AM   #532
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I think the figures in the FAQ's section helped a lot for my planning.

The moto mule is practical, (actually splendid IMO) as an entry level trailer that trumps anything else out there for trail use. It does this without forsaking the low displacement crowd.

Could a heavier version with the same footprint handle more weight for a bigger bike ? Yes, but lacking a calibrated trailer brake there is not too much room in that direction either.

The gross weight rating of the Moto-Mule in particular is mainly hinged to the structural strength of the design, which is engineered to be spartan in line with simplicity, ease of repair, towability, and not exceeding braking or towing capacity of virtually any motorcycle typically used for extended wilderness type rides.

That is ONLY my humble opinion based on what the inventor has said answering previous inquiries....

The "tongue weight (at the skewer ?) and weight at rear wheel balance are factors I do not recall seeing answers to. ... I personally balance by pro/con. More at skewer increases unsprung weight on drive tire and accelerates bearing wear in that hub. More at trailer wheel increases odds of "tail wagging the dog" effect, while smoothing out ride quality on rougher terrain for both the trailer and tow vehicle since the supplied shock has no damper adjustment. The only time any of these factors begin to have profound effect is when pushing or exceeding the reasonable limits. Strongly recommend trial rides with extreme (light and heavy) sample loads to determine how it is affected by your particular terrain, skills, and tow rig. I learned a ton by considering my best guesstimates outlined above, and conducting field trials to see how far off or on track the logic might be.
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Old 01-17-2014, 01:18 PM   #533
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*knock *knock

Anybody still here?

Was showing your trailer and hitch design to some buddies, specifically for the bikes sans hollow axles. Pretty much everyone responded with, "heck no would I ever put that much stress on my chain tensioners!" I hadn't considered it would be a problem, but the responses were about across the board.

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Old 01-17-2014, 02:37 PM   #534
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What is the lead time on one of these right now?

Also, do you have a method for attaching to an F800?

I have a DRZ and know how that one will work, but I'd love to be able to use this on both bikes.
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:56 PM   #535
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*knock *knock

Anybody still here?

Was showing your trailer and hitch design to some buddies, specifically for the bikes sans hollow axles. Pretty much everyone responded with, "heck no would I ever put that much stress on my chain tensioners!" I hadn't considered it would be a problem, but the responses were about across the board.

Thoughts?
The chain tensioners aren't take any weight or stress.Once the axle is torqued down,all the stress is transferred to the swing arm,and that's minimal with the light weight.I would think no more stress than a passenger would cause.
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Old 02-24-2014, 11:38 AM   #536
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this thread was hard to find! have there been any issues with these trailers or are they truly the greatest thing since sliced bread?
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:38 AM   #537
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this thread was hard to find! have there been any issues with these trailers or are they truly the greatest thing since sliced bread?
Greatest thing since sliced bread??? I doubt it... But, definitely a very useful tool.

There are over 50 of them out in the world now, I've had two fail, both I fixed and are back on the trail.

The first one had one of the box supports bend when it got hung up on a log crossing. It didn't prevent the owner (fisherman here on ADVrider) from finishing his trip, he had me fix it when he got home.

The second failure was catastrophic. I don't know what happened in this case, it appears the owner was carrying much more than the 60 pounds of cargo the trailer is rated for... It bent the upright pivot tube on the trailer back 25 degrees or so and then snapped it off where it welds to the main frame. I had to replace the whole front end of the main frame on that one.
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:39 AM   #538
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do you have a picture of the attachment on the 2012 wee strom? also, is there any additional wear or problems with the wheel bearings caused by this pulling method? and last, what are the deminsions of the cargo plate area? whis would determine what size box I would need.
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:21 AM   #539
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your website does not give answers to my questions. Are you still making these?
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Old 03-13-2014, 06:15 AM   #540
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your website does not give answers to my questions. Are you still making these?
Send Mr. Bracket a PM or contact him through the website.Facebook maybe the quickest way.
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