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I'd buy an aluminum storage/bash plate if priced below $300 62 65.96%
I'd buy an aluminum storage/bash plate if priced below $400 17 18.09%
I'd buy an aluminum storage/bash plate if priced below $500 9 9.57%
I'd buy an aluminum storage/bash plate if priced below $600 6 6.38%
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:38 AM   #31
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Thanks Arch, I know it's been gone over and over and over

but we never had a professional Al welder onboard who wants one too...
Actually we had a couple come think of it, one that stands out is BlownCJ.
Anybody ever get the blue prints from him that Flanny sent him?
I'll give him a call tonight and find out for you guys..
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:41 AM   #32
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I'm very interested too, if its a two tool box version done right.
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Old 04-04-2005, 09:03 AM   #33
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Actually we had a couple come think of it, one that stands out is BlownCJ.
Anybody ever get the blue prints from him that Flanny sent him?
I'll give him a call tonight and find out for you guys..
Thanks James,

nobody has and I think at least one has tried. I don't think he hangs out here anymore.

I am surprised that none of the machinists have stepped up to even say they could do it but it would cost too much (as flanny said) or that they are not interested. It would be good for discussion at least. I thought MotoMike would have something to say but I haven't heard back from him (must be busy); he owns a machine shop I believe.

Not even Loaded has chimed in, even from the peanut gallery!

creeper and ChrisC along with dirtrider et al are busy with their dream engine thread (the rumors of a 700cc twin coming outa KTM has lots of people salivating).

Oh well, guess I'll get some work done!
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Old 04-04-2005, 11:34 AM   #34
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Not even Loaded has chimed in, even from the peanut gallery!
yes i did! i had quotes done immediately after flanny backed off the project. to do this thing well is very pricey... if you guys can do it and do it well i'll buy one. try not to get too much above $500... i know that sounds like alot, but.... get a quote or two... my first prototype was over $1000, and copies <25 in a batch were in the $750 area.... try making money on that!
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Old 04-04-2005, 11:56 AM   #35
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Meat Pop, got your PM. I really don't have any connections with any metal stamping shops. I sort of know one guy, but he's a 1st class flake and I'm not dealing with him. You have to consider the cost of stamping, mainly having the dies made. That could get expensive. I think something could be done with a regular hydralic press and some homemade tooling. Some of the simpler bends or curves could be done with a dead blow hammer and a wooden buck.
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Old 04-04-2005, 12:01 PM   #36
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Thanks fellas, glad for the feedback. I thought y'all would or would know of aluminum fabricators that would stamp Al. If this thing stays coozy then the pricepoint might be better (i.e. someone who wants one too might throw some personal time at it).

Hopefully boejangles will get the plans from BlownCJ, or Arch will do some AutoCad drawings for KTM640Dakar to use but if KTM640Dakar does this all by himself we will have some groveling to do!

$500 would be too much for my pockets... KTiM's $250 version was more possible...
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Old 04-04-2005, 01:54 PM   #37
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Well everyone I have been talking to meat popsicle regarding another storage container that uses the charcoal canister, and we begain talking about this rallye skid plate. The reason I posed this question to the group is because I have the ability to weld for free. I work for a welding manufacturer and currently I have a Fanuc Arc welding robot set up in my demo room ready to weld aluminum parts. This would allow me to easily set up fixtures to weld these boxes. In order for the robot to successfully weld I need repeatable parts. I thought someone who could stamp parts out might be willing to donate time/effort to provide parts. I now have studied the pictures of these skid plates and yes they are not simple. However we could design a more simple box, that attaches to OEM skidplates and save us all a boatload. If I have to bend everything by hand then it is not worth trying to program a robot and I'm forced to rethink the number of pieces i would be willing to make. I am still open to any suggestions and would be willing to work with anyone who would also put forth some effort.


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Old 04-04-2005, 02:40 PM   #38
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Could always try this route...


http://www.emachineshop.com/
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Old 04-04-2005, 03:55 PM   #39
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http://www.emachineshop.com/
Holy eCommerce Batman! Looks too good to be true? thanks txrider, I wonder how much HQ aluminum runs because those parts shown on the sample pricing page are CHEAP (the plain ones that is).

flanny did say water jet cutting was the best in his research:

http://www.emachineshop.com/machines...et-cutting.htm



KTM640Dakar, you want me to run the software and see what's up? I would like to help out in some way. I have some CAD experience (light) - enough to draw up some squares and such!

PS - if this doesnt work out: what about aircraft skin? I might be able to locate some inexpensive scrap aluminum honeycomb sandwich... I will know cost and such soon. talk about light and strong!
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PS - if this doesnt work out: what about aircraft skin? I might be able to locate some inexpensive scrap aluminum honeycomb sandwich... I will know cost and such soon. talk about light and strong!
depends what alloy the skin is. it'll prolly crack like crazy.... al hoeycomb will not bend.... at all.
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depends what alloy the skin is. it'll prolly crack like crazy.... al hoeycomb will not bend.... at all.
Not sure - I will find out. From my reading I am more worried about the weldability of the Al... some of these aircraft grade Als do not weld very well.
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:42 AM   #42
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yeah emachineshop is enough to get any gadget freaks brain spinning with possibilities. :)
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Not sure - I will find out. From my reading I am more worried about the weldability of the Al... some of these aircraft grade Als do not weld very well.
almost all commercially available alloys of aluminium are weldable.... having said that... auminium (generaly speaking) does not weld easily. you have to get someone who deals with it on a regular basis. if the welder does do a nice looking job... remember that stuff is soft like butter now. it will likely crack in the transition areas if not heat treated.

many grades of aluminium do not bend. 6061 t6, which is the most readily available alloy in north america.... does not bend.
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Old 04-05-2005, 10:56 AM   #44
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yeah emachineshop is enough to get any gadget freaks brain spinning with possibilities. :)
i installed emachineshop last year for a custom tripmaster holder. The software is easy to use and my part looked great on the computer but it was way too expensive so i just made it myself with a bandsaw, drill and grinder.
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almost all commercially available alloys of aluminium are weldable.... having said that... auminium (generaly speaking) does not weld easily. you have to get someone who deals with it on a regular basis. if the welder does do a nice looking job... remember that stuff is soft like butter now. it will likely crack in the transition areas if not heat treated.

many grades of aluminium do not bend. 6061 t6, which is the most readily available alloy in north america.... does not bend.
At least we don't want Ti boxes and luckly for us KTM640Dakar is a commercial Aluminum welder. Plus, if we get machine made parts (eMachineShop... ) then he will have his robot weld them. Are robots good at welding?

What aluminum alloy would you suggest?

still working on the honeycomb sandwich stock - will take a bit of time. but I would think that commercial aircraft is so strong it would be able to deal with some hits in this application. maybe require some repair welding but shouldn't collapse.
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