The Official 2012 F1 Thread. Spoilers possible!

[wxwax]

Since so many of the races are boring, I think they should be decided this way:

Cut those ridiculously complicated front wings into small pieces. The first team that can reassemble its wing properly, wins.

[shrineclown]

If you wish to be at the Start Finish line of the Austin GP, Click here to reserve.

FYI, you will most likely know who the winner is from a more interesting position on the circuit. Your chance of a photo finish is not high.

[dlearl476]

Originally Posted by shrineclown

If you wish to be at the Start Finish line of the Austin GP, Click here to reserve.

FYI, you will most likely know who the winner is from a more interesting position on the circuit. Your chance of a photo finish is not high.

Fatal Failure

Are tix on sale yet?

[shrineclown]

Originally Posted by dlearl476

Are tix on sale yet?

Reservations, go on sale 3/1, I think. This is for the select seating and luxury box seating. Fixed link, I hope.

[g®eg]

Kimi!

[g®eg]

Originally Posted by wxwax

I agree. His ride was already shaky. Then he goes and does that. As I posted earlier, that was roughly the same time that he finally woke up and realized the trouble he was in. His performances, at least in qualifying, improved. But too little, too late.

yeah but....

Thanks for putting together the race results, Greg. Sutil did better in the first half than I remembered. I have to think that Force India, which doesn't like to pay its bills and is notoriously cheap, might be saving money by dumping a veteran like Sutil.

I guess I was thinking of qualifying, which is usually a truer test of teammates. Sutil started slow but finished fast. However, the margin was only occasionally large enough to justify what I suspect were Sutil's larger wages.


2010 Force India Qualifying

Sutil
16 17 11 12 17 15 14 19 11 8 8 15 12 9 11 10 8 9 8
DiResta
14 14 8 13 16 14 11 12 6 12 11 18 11 10 12 9 13 10 11
__________________
Sid.

It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this.
-- Bertrand Russell

To make an apple pie from scratch,
you must first invent the universe.
-- Carl Sagan

so just to remind you that Sutil drove about "average" all year, and attacking the Renault guy with a broken champagne glass.... not so cool

News reports are claiming that Genii Capital CEO is gearing up to launch a €10 million damages claim against Adrian Sutil, who caused the Frenchman to need up to 24 stitches in his neck when he assaulted him with a broken champagne glass at a Shanghai nightclub during the Chinese Grand Prix weekend.

While the incident was not investigated by Chinese police and no criminal charges have been laid, it is believed that Lux will launch a civil suit in addition to filing a complaint with the FIA, according to a report in sport24.com.
While all parties have confirmed the incident, all are sticking to it being “a private matter” in their respective press releases, with Sutil declaring the incident was unintentional and accidental.
All up, there appears to be lots of stories and few concrete facts. The number of stitches required by Lux is seemingly up for debate, as are the number of people apparently involved in the incident itself.
The issue of alcohol being a factor is not something that many have discussed. ‘Glassing’ someone is not an everyday behaviour of a sober person, and it would be logical to presume that Sutil may have had a couple in the lead-up to the incident.
Even Sutil’s explanation that the injuries he afflicted on Lux were done “completely unintentionally” is particularly curious. It’s difficult to see how sticking a broken champagne glass in someone’s neck could not be done without a degree of intent.
Today’s F1 drivers rarely drink and are therefore more prone to the affects of alcohol than the general population, but you can speculate on this story until the chickens proverbially come home to roost.
Where this could become problematic is if the FIA decided to open the book and investigate the matter. Sutil has been quick to distance the incident as being unrelated to his duties as a Formula 1 driver, but the FIA recently confirmed it was taking any off-track incidents that damaged the sport’s reputation very seriously.

[Clem Kevin]

Two things:

1.) Sutil is a dumbass for dong this

2.) Eric Lux is a fucking baby. WAAAHHHHHHH

[shrineclown]

Originally Posted by Clem Kevin

Two things:

1.) Sutil is a dumbass for dong this

2.) Eric Lux is a fucking baby. WAAAHHHHHHH

Dude, I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but that looked awfully close to a major artery. This could be a whole different situation entirely then.

I think the story needs to come out to determine A or B of your argument. It is odd, that if it was an act of malice why he did not go to the "police". Either National or FIA version.

Just weird............. until we know the details. And for that many euro's, they will come out.

[wxwax]

Not surprisingly, the FIA has not approved the "reactive" suspension. Apparently the teams first spotted it on a Renault at the young driver event in Abu Dhabi.

Ferrari and Lotus then began working on it but wanted the FIA's approval before chasing down the rabbit hole. (No "complaining" by Ferrari, then.)

Permission denied and the world moves on.

[srad600]

Originally Posted by shrineclown

I think the story needs to come out to determine A or B of your argument. It is odd, that if it was an act of malice why he did not go to the "police". Either National or FIA version.

Just weird............. until we know the details. And for that many euro's, they will come out.

Exactly, in all seriousness, if there was a malicious act, with the intent to seriously harm someone, the police would have been called and criminal charges woould have been filed. China is not known for being "easy" on crime.

I think it's curious that none of that happened.

[g®eg]

Originally Posted by srad600

Exactly, in all seriousness, if there was a malicious act, with the intent to seriously harm someone, the police would have been called and criminal charges woould have been filed. China is not known for being "easy" on crime.

I think it's curious that none of that happened.

maybe Lux didn't want Sutil to rot in a Chinese prison, he'd rather have his day in western court... who knows.
tell you what, if someone glasses me, I'd sue the tits off 'em

[Clem Kevin]

Originally Posted by g®eg

maybe Lux didn't want Sutil to rot in a Chinese prison, he'd rather have his day in western court... who knows.
tell you what, if someone glasses me, I'd sue the tits off 'em

If someone glassed me, I'd just glass them back, haha.

[shrineclown]

Originally Posted by g®eg

tell you what, if someone glasses me, I'd sue the tits off 'em

Originally Posted by Clem Kevin

If someone glassed me, I'd just glass them back, haha.

My Dad's bigger than your Dad!

[srad600]

Originally Posted by g®eg

maybe Lux didn't want Sutil to rot in a Chinese prison, he'd rather have his day in western court... who knows.
tell you what, if someone glasses me, I'd sue the tits off 'em

Yeah, I suppose...It just strikes me as funny. I'm sure there's much more to this story than any of us are likely to ever know, but the whole thing just doesn't sound right. If some dude glassed me, he'd be sitting his a$$ in a chinese prison...at least until he agreed to pay me the 10 Mil to recant and let him out.

[g®eg]