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Old 12-03-2011, 08:40 AM   #1
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Not having a good day....advice needed.

I'll just start with some pics.

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The main problem is that I'm flat broke. Haven't worked steady all year and it's beginning to show in my bank account. I want to repair it, but is it so far gone that I should just save my pennies for a new subframe? I also just had the seat recovered.

Small tip over in the garage pushed it over the edge I'm guessing. It's funny, after Mike and I picked the bike up and assessed that nothing appeared to be broken, he made this comment: "that's a well sorted dual sport bike. It falls over and nothing has broken."
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:48 AM   #2
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Damn, Jenna.

Doesn't Brad have a spare subframe?
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:50 AM   #3
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I feel for ya.

If it were my bike, I would be stripping that subframe off and taking it to a good welder friend. Have it all done up and maybe add a little more gusseting in suspect areas. Then if I was really attached to the bike, maybe save up for a replacement subframe for in the future.

My old '79 RT ended up with numerous frame cracks and broken welds after 25 years and close to 350,000 hard miles. Ever seen an RT used like a G/S. Sold the whole thing to a friend who took it all apart and did the welding himself. Did a complete rebuild on it and now has another 200,000 miles on it. No new cracks.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:51 AM   #4
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Oy, I wish I had a sub-frame to send to you because that zip-tie isn't going to hold.

Hang in there, Jenna.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:53 AM   #5
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Oy, I wish I had a sub-frame to send to you because that zip-tie isn't going to hold.

Hang in there, Jenna.
Ha!!!! Just fyi, it's there to hold my vent tube out of the way, but that does seem like something I would try?....

About to take it apart and get friendly with it.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:48 AM   #6
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Hey Jenna, there is nothing so bad there that a good welder couldn't sort in an hour or two. so strip it down, make some cardboard templates, get some reinforcing brackets cut, and take it to your local engineering college and have them weld it up in one of the classes.

Good luck with it..
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:05 AM   #7
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Looks like this was coming on for a while!

One nice thing about these bikes - they've got good manners!

Just think - it had the good sense to fail in the garage. How many other bikes are that civilized???

Doesn't look like anything too horrible there - just pull it apart and fix it! Not a big deal. Maybe take a good close look at the main frame while you're at it.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:10 AM   #8
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Jenna, it's not that bad. Like others have said, pull the sub frame off and take this opportunity to add some gussets. Go ahead and cut the old gusset which is braking out and make another one. If it were mine where the tubing is cracked. Go ahead and cut both sides add another tube inside and then weld up the frame. The inner tube will provide support for the weak area.

It's easy to make the gussets with a $20 angle grinder, cutoff wheel and cardboard templates.

Does beater or Baldwglasses have a welder???


I'm w/ you on the money thing. Saw your Areo stitch and it'd fit me, but I really shouldn't spend the money.....damn it.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:16 AM   #9
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Hey Richard, I have a welder. I'm just not the most "creative" when it comes to welding. But I will be taking a stab at it. As far as the Darien goes, do you need a jacket? I'm happy to wait for payment if you need it. I know where you live...so

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Jenna, it's not that bad. Like others have said, pull the sub frame off and take this opportunity to add some gussets. Go ahead and cut the old gusset which is braking out and make another one. If it were mine where the tubing is cracked. Go ahead and cut both sides add another tube inside and then weld up the frame. The inner tube will provide support for the weak area.

It's easy to make the gussets with a $20 angle grinder, cutoff wheel and cardboard templates.

Does beater or Baldwglasses have a welder???


I'm w/ you on the money thing. Saw your Areo stitch and it'd fit me, but I really shouldn't spend the money.....damn it.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:23 AM   #10
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I've got a First Gear which is acceptable. I've got to be smart w/ what little money I have...starving student, the self unemployment thing you know about that.

Don't use that damn flux core welder on the frame, a mig is SO much better!!!!!!! If I were in your shoes get someone who can weld as you need good penetration with the weld!!! Just guessing that you might not be all that good. If you don't know a good welder...oh come on someone at the Harley dealer can weld it for you!!! If not what about a local vocational school?? Go by and talk to the instructor he'll be able to help you out I'm sure!!! As far as bracing goes, don't forget that a brace might get in the way of some fasteners and other things.

I'd look into adding a gusset to the opposite side of the broken one. Where your zip tie is. Do it on both sides. Like I said make sure you don't block off anything you'll need access to for disassembley.
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Old 12-03-2011, 11:35 AM   #11
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sub frame

Jenna
I have a spare sub frame you can borrow until you get yours fixed.
Won't need back for 6 months.

Just pay for shipping it or maybe we can chip in and you can have a merry xmas
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:10 PM   #12
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Jenna
I have a spare sub frame you can borrow until you get yours fixed.
Won't need back for 6 months.

Just pay for shipping it or maybe we can chip in and you can have a merry xmas

That's the Old's Cool spirit, right there!!
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:49 PM   #13
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just talked to Len, if I was earlier he could have taken it back east.

Oh, well..................
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:02 PM   #14
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I'm having a hard time telling what the kick me when Im down pic is...

But heck this is just a subframe... No worries, its a sign of maturity and correct usage
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:06 PM   #15
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i've got an r100gs subframe on the shelf. you'll end up needing other parts, like a seat and other stuff, but if it helps you i'll send it your way.
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