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Old 12-06-2011, 11:14 AM   #16
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:14 AM   #17
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Excuse me but, I always ride second and I never loose # three , so you get the three spot.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:34 PM   #18
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JD...I'd offer to buy you lunch if you can finally make it to the lunch stop but PARTY BOSS has suggested that I publish a waypoint for that!

Actually I may publish several waypoints just before the rally by pulling coords from google earth. Since I still haven't picked up a gps and google maps doesn't recognize some of the 'roads' I like to use...who knows, I may even pick up an old gps before then.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:54 PM   #19
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JD...I'd offer to buy you lunch if you can finally make it to the lunch stop but PARTY BOSS has suggested that I publish a waypoint for that!

Actually I may publish several waypoints just before the rally by pulling coords from google earth. Since I still haven't picked up a gps and google maps doesn't recognize some of the 'roads' I like to use...who knows, I may even pick up an old gps before then.

Hey banjo, I found a good deal on a water proof version GPS. Sometime I have to stop and refresh the page.
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:11 PM   #20
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I tried using one of those to get to byob last summer!




...it may have been a bit too high tech for me though....know of anything more user friendly?
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:12 PM   #21
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:18 PM   #22
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JD...I'd offer to buy you lunch if you can finally make it to the lunch stop but PARTY BOSS has suggested that I publish a waypoint for that!

Actually I may publish several waypoints just before the rally by pulling coords from google earth. Since I still haven't picked up a gps and google maps doesn't recognize some of the 'roads' I like to use...who knows, I may even pick up an old gps before then.
Actually whether they're official waypoints or just intersections that DO have names, it would be helpful for getting scattered groups back together. You just know there will be more feudin' relatives along on the next ride too, right?
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:40 PM   #23
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I tried using one of those to get to byob last summer!

...it may have been a bit too high tech for me though....know of anything more user friendly?
mine look like this too. It's a bit hard to see on my pic, but I tape (or rubber-band) my directions on the GPS holder... works like a charm but does not help against gravity

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Old 12-06-2011, 03:56 PM   #24
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Actually whether they're official waypoints or just intersections that DO have names, it would be helpful for getting scattered groups back together. You just know there will be more feudin' relatives along on the next ride too, right?
Yeah....Once the location is official I'll start scouting again and try to have at least 3 waypoints for each ride. That means we won't be able to be as flexible on our lunch plans but it'll give lost riders a chance to catch up at a mid point both before and after lunch as well. It'll still give me lots of flexibility in how we get to those points which may be decided by group speed....

However....that does NOT excuse the act of not waiting for the rider behind you!!



What kind of public disgrace could we impose upon those that break this most sacred rule of group riding?
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:26 PM   #25
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Of course, there is no guarantee that they will still be attached come spring...
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:55 PM   #26
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However....that does NOT excuse the act of not waiting for the rider behind you!!

What kind of public disgrace could we impose upon those that break this most sacred rule of group riding?
Here is an easy solution to your problem - but your old dog may have to learn some new tricks http://www.unclephil.us/GroupRide.htm

I've been riding with Uncle Phil for the past few years and his European Drop & Sweep is the best group riding that I've ever done. I've ridden with groups numbering in the high 30's and still had a blast because passing is allowed if the guy in front of you is too slow. Works great for sport touring, Should be perfect for any style of riding including the DS rides. It is much safer for the group than conventional "wait for your tail" rides.

I led a D&S ride last spring with about 25 bikes. The fastest was a Ducati rider (he also has a few track bikes) and the slowest was on a cruiser, the rest of us were sport touring bikes. The Ducati rider was the drop more often than anyone else because he rode the fastest and kept getting into 2nd position. Everyone had a great ride and no one felt pressured to go fast, well, except for me as leader. I did not want the Ducati rider to get bored. Bottom line is that we all had a fun, safe ride for all participants and everyone was able to ride their own style even though it was a large group,
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:20 PM   #27
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However....that does NOT excuse the act of not waiting for the rider behind you!!
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Here is an easy solution to your problem - but your old dog may have to learn some new tricks http://www.unclephil.us/GroupRide.htm
well, I skimmed through your link and there is one clearly marked and bold section:

11. DO NOT ABANDON YOUR POST AS A MARKER OR I WILL PERSONALLY HUNT YOU DOWN AND SHOOT YOU! If you do, you have just messed over everyone behind you.

so, what do you reckon happened on his ride???

btw I was one of the dropped riders. Shit happens, the link broke, and we went in the opposite direction (thanks to some guys at the intersection that told us the group went "this way"). Having a set lunch location will help - having a sweep that knows where we going maybe even more...



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Old 12-06-2011, 08:39 PM   #28
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:38 PM   #29
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Having a set lunch location will help - having a sweep that knows where we going maybe even more...
Screw that. I refuse to take responsibility for anyone who is lost in front of me.

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Old 12-06-2011, 09:40 PM   #30
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Here is an easy solution to your problem - but your old dog may have to learn some new tricks http://www.unclephil.us/GroupRide.htm
I like it but, have some concerns about always having to have somebody posted at every turn. ...and I have no way of knowing where or when the group may begin to stretch out...so it would have to be at every turn to work.

My rides the past two years have done an extreme amount of zig-zagging on very narrow roads. If the group is still together I think it could be dangerous to try and post a marker at every intersection. I mean lots and lots of turns and that IS a big part of the problem....but....

Sure there are more direct routes to get to where we end up going....but these rides are more about riding those twisty little out of the way paths than anything else.

I do like the concept though and will consider it.


What I need are a few suckers volunteers to pre-run with me a week or two before the rally that would be willing to help me with the rides during the RDV itself, even if it was just for one of the days. It would be invaluable to have a sweeper that knows the route.
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