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Old 04-19-2013, 09:15 PM   #1996
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Decals my friend, take your time peeling it off w/ heated blow gun and you'll be fine. I couldn't take the dumb name Sertao.. It's a Dakar to me all the way... so I rebadged it..

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Old 04-19-2013, 09:22 PM   #1997
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Hello All,

I just put a deposit down on a new Sertao, it will be my first "adventure" bike. I plan to ride mostly on gravel roads, and fire trails but I'm sure it will see some highway time as well. After much deliberation I decided to go with the it over the TR 650 Terra (the warranty, roadside asst., and abs won me over). I've been lurking around the forum for a few days and have read about the hot start problem, I'm hoping they have resolved this in the 13 model year.

I'm sure I'll have ?'s for you all as this is my first BMW and first non carb'd, water cooled bike. I am looking into a set of luggage racks (any opinions welcome) for added bike protection/mounting some plastic ammo cans to.

Thanks
Congratulations on your purchase! I think you are going to like your decision and love your new bike. As far as hot start issues, you should be fine. It was resolved about mid-June last year at the assembly level. So, if your bike was born after mid-June 2012, you should be fine.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:35 PM   #1998
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Congratulations on your purchase! I think you are going to like your decision and love your new bike. As far as hot start issues, you should be fine. It was resolved about mid-June last year at the assembly level. So, if your bike was born after mid-June 2012, you should be fine.

Is there a vin number sequence we should be weary of? I'm probably getting my Sertao tomorrow, and the dealership has a both a '12 and '13. The price is more right for the '12.. I just want to make sure i don't end up with a bad batch bike.
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Old 04-20-2013, 12:19 AM   #1999
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Is there a vin number sequence we should be weary of? I'm probably getting my Sertao tomorrow, and the dealership has a both a '12 and '13. The price is more right for the '12.. I just want to make sure i don't end up with a bad batch bike.

Your dealer should be able to pull up whether or not the 12' your'e looking at is affected.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:55 AM   #2000
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:28 AM   #2001
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Hello all,
I'm Dan from Kansas City.

I'm considering buying a sertao. I've been riding a GSA for the last couple of years and I want a smaller bike to run the Colorado section of the TAT.

I know the Sertao is still a bit big for that section, but I don't want to trailer the bike to Co. so I'll need something with a little comfort to get me across Kansas, and if it gets too bad, I can always go around that section.

My questions for you are:

Will I be miserable after leaving the comfort of the R1200GSA (I'm only 5'6" tall)?
What should I expect to pay for the leftover 12 that my dealer has?
Any must-have farkles I need right away? (Other than bags, and engine guards)?

Thanks in advance for any opinions.

Dan
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:55 AM   #2002
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Swamp - where did you mount your gopro to your helmet? Top, side, under the peak, over it etc? All works ok?

Obviously worried about branches ripping it off.

I need to mount mine...
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:33 AM   #2003
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Is there a vin number sequence we should be weary of? I'm probably getting my Sertao tomorrow, and the dealership has a both a '12 and '13. The price is more right for the '12.. I just want to make sure i don't end up with a bad batch bike.
Your answer is right here, in this bulletin: http://www.gravesurrounds.com/bike/hotstart.pdf

Basically, your engine number should be 61712400 or greater. If your engine number is less than the above, insist on the bulletin to be complied with before taking delivery. If the number is 61712400 or later, you are good to go.

Hope it helps

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Old 04-20-2013, 08:06 AM   #2004
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Hello all,
I'm Dan from Kansas City.

I'm considering buying a sertao. I've been riding a GSA for the last couple of years and I want a smaller bike to run the Colorado section of the TAT.

I know the Sertao is still a bit big for that section, but I don't want to trailer the bike to Co. so I'll need something with a little comfort to get me across Kansas, and if it gets too bad, I can always go around that section.

My questions for you are:

Will I be miserable after leaving the comfort of the R1200GSA (I'm only 5'6" tall)?
What should I expect to pay for the leftover 12 that my dealer has?
Any must-have farkles I need right away? (Other than bags, and engine guards)?

Thanks in advance for any opinions.

Dan
I think the Sertáo would be a great bike for that trip. I've run most of the western portion in CO on mine with no issues. The only problem I can foresee is your height. Have you sat on a Sert yet? I am on the balls of my feet when I stop and I'm 5' 11"...
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:24 AM   #2005
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Hello all,

Thanks in advance for any opinions.

Dan

My Tiger 955 weighed about ~500 lbs on the trail.

My Sertao weighs about ~ 400. But to me the BMW 'feels' a lot lighter than the 100 or so pounds difference and I can pick it up far easier and it handles far better too off road.

I'd hate to take a pig like a 1200GS off road. Sure lots of folks do it but I consider it a bloated monstrosity in tight spaces.
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:03 AM   #2006
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I think the Sertáo would be a great bike for that trip. I've run most of the western portion in CO on mine with no issues. The only problem I can foresee is your height. Have you sat on a Sert yet? I am on the balls of my feet when I stop and I'm 5' 11"...
I'm pretty used to not being able to touch. I ride off road quite a bit and there is not a bike made for us shorter people.
I have sat on one and I don't think the height will be the problem.

Thanks for your reply. Maybe our paths will cross out there some day. I love western and central Colorado.

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Old 04-20-2013, 09:10 AM   #2007
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My Tiger 955 weighed about ~500 lbs on the trail.

My Sertao weighs about ~ 400. But to me the BMW 'feels' a lot lighter than the 100 or so pounds difference and I can pick it up far easier and it handles far better too off road.

I'd hate to take a pig like a 1200GS off road. Sure lots of folks do it but I consider it a bloated monstrosity in tight spaces.

I understand what you mean about the big pig, but I like it better than I liked my f800gs. Off road and on. And that's part of my concern. The f8 just felt so top heavy and when I finally got a foot on solid ground I couldn't hold it up. My 12gsa never seems to get that far over (it feels like the weight is lower and easier for me to balance and ride off road).

Thanks for the input. It's good to hear the opinions!!
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:22 AM   #2008
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"Use this brace to prevent costly damage when riding the F650GS hard."

Please advise, do not ride your sertao after cramming a handful of viagra down your throat!
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Old 04-20-2013, 12:11 PM   #2009
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I went from a gsa to a Sertao and I would be fairly certain the gsa seat is higher.

I found the Sert switchgear to be more awkward, reaching for the heated grip switch in the dark is an accident waiting to happen! The dip beam is not good by comparison, and the gsa's isn't fab.

The ease the 1200 speeds up is lovely of course, but most surprising was the brakes. To brake hard on tarmac I need a proper handful of Sert lever, the gsa stops real well with just one finger. Maybe different levers helps??

The mimimal off roading I've done on 1200's and 650's proved the wider choice of properly sticky knobblies for the 650 made that better in slippery stuff but both were fun. I'm no expert though obviously :)

I swapped back to a 1200 today :)
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:30 PM   #2010
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Hello all,
I'm Dan from Kansas City.

I'm considering buying a sertao. I've been riding a GSA for the last couple of years and I want a smaller bike to run the Colorado section of the TAT.

I know the Sertao is still a bit big for that section, but I don't want to trailer the bike to Co. so I'll need something with a little comfort to get me across Kansas, and if it gets too bad, I can always go around that section.

My questions for you are:

Will I be miserable after leaving the comfort of the R1200GSA (I'm only 5'6" tall)?
What should I expect to pay for the leftover 12 that my dealer has?
Any must-have farkles I need right away? (Other than bags, and engine guards)?

Thanks in advance for any opinions.

Dan
I came off a Super Tenere and Tiger 955 to the Sertao. Not missing either and am basically as comfortable on the Sertao. More vibrations but for me the downsize has been the right move. I'd rather be a little less comfortable on the highway in order to get more flexibility offroad...
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