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Old 07-06-2013, 07:43 PM   #2926
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Not a Sertao but my 2007 rotax650 has been the same spec. for 85000km's
Thats awesome . VERY comforting. Maybe ill have the same luck...
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:06 PM   #2927
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I had my Sertao in for its first service today. $170. Yikes!

On the plus side, my TT pegs and bar risers were in. I got them installed this evening and can't wait to take the bike out after lunch tomorrow now. I'll have to hit some old dirt bike trails and see how the standing position has changed also.

The stock pegs are SO tiny.


I really want a steering damper now too.

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Old 07-06-2013, 11:09 PM   #2928
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TT pegs alone will not achieve much, if you check the positioning they are still forward of the swing arm pivot point so you are still loading up the front every time you launch up onto the pegs. The pegs need to be relocated, check the Dakar bikes of all brands and note where their pegs are mounted
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:11 PM   #2929
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Was just wondering if anyone could recommend a good battery for the Sertao, thats likely to start up even in very cold weather. Thanks a million for your time.

O'Malley
Lithium batteries are great, but not necessarily the best for cold weather. You have to have the key on for a few minutes for the battery to "wake up" in cold weather. I thought that my battery was dead any time it dropped below 40 degrees until I figured this little trick out. It's very counter-intuitive that you have to leave the key on if the bike doesn't want to start right away. I have the Shorai lithium. You'll swear that the thing is hollow because it's sooooo light!
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:27 PM   #2930
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Lithium batteries are great, but not necessarily the best for cold weather. You have to have the key on for a few minutes for the battery to "wake up" in cold weather. I thought that my battery was dead any time it dropped below 40 degrees until I figured this little trick out. It's very counter-intuitive that you have to leave the key on if the bike doesn't want to start right away. I have the Shorai lithium. You'll swear that the thing is hollow because it's sooooo light!
Personally, I'd put in a good AGM battery long before I' d shell out the $$$ for a Li battery. First, the stock charging system is not correct for most Li batteries which require a 14.4 V float voltage. LiFePO4 batteries charge at 13.6V. AGMs are very tough and reliable, are better at deep discharge and cold than normal wet cells. Unfortunately I have no experience with the 2 I've found: Scorpion and Motobatt. They are probably both made in the same factory in China. I wish Odyssey made one that fit, but they don't currently. Lots of folks talk about the Scorpion. Anyone have the MB12U?
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:54 PM   #2931
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my battery works fine. its a shorai lithium. its currently connected to the shorai storage/ charger thingy.

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somewhere in panama during a break in the rain.

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Old 07-07-2013, 02:20 PM   #2932
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i have jumped downed trees with this bike that were approximately 12 inches in diameter if that tells you anything. it can handle steep, rocky ATV trails. the only thing that it really hates are deep, soft, wet mud roads that have been supremely rutted out by bulldozers. honestly anything that you would encounter on a long ride on a heavy ADV bike this thing will handle and a lot more "if i have to situations". Its really all up to the rider. . and the tires , suspension, wheels aaannnd how much useless shit you strap to the back. .

i think that was a rant.. sorry.


to answer your question: yep handles this stuff great !
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:07 PM   #2933
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Personally, I'd put in a good AGM battery long before I' d shell out the $$$ for a Li battery. First, the stock charging system is not correct for most Li batteries which require a 14.4 V float voltage. LiFePO4 batteries charge at 13.6V. AGMs are very tough and reliable, are better at deep discharge and cold than normal wet cells. Unfortunately I have no experience with the 2 I've found: Scorpion and Motobatt. They are probably both made in the same factory in China. I wish Odyssey made one that fit, but they don't currently. Lots of folks talk about the Scorpion. Anyone have the MB12U?
I have the Scorpion. So far, so good
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:45 PM   #2934
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Has anyone had/heard of transmission problems with these bikes??

Either I'm losing my mind or I'm hearing noises reminiscent of a differential that's about to fail.. but, there's obviously no diff. I noticed it under load going down a cement highway.. only i was convinced it was just the tire noise. Then I really noticed it when I was just about to finish my ride.. popped it into neutral as I was rolling into the gate to flash my I.D. I heard this fairly obvious humming that I'm positive is new. Not very loud, but definitely there.

I have no shifting issues, and no abnormal vibrations.

I lowered my head to get closer to sound and am pretty sure its coming from under the seat region, and not the rear wheel.
Cooling fan...
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:59 PM   #2935
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Was just wondering if anyone could recommend a good battery for the Sertao, thats likely to start up even in very cold weather. Thanks a million for your time.

O'Malley
Motobatt MB12U, 15 AH, $82. Fits like a glove and works great!!!
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:05 PM   #2936
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Cooling fan...
Nope. Works well and makes no additional noise when it spins.

I'll be back on the bike tomorrow... ill keep updating as I tinker with it.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:06 PM   #2937
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I had my Sertao in for its first service today. $170. Yikes!

On the plus side, my TT pegs and bar risers were in. I got them installed this evening and can't wait to take the bike out after lunch tomorrow now. I'll have to hit some old dirt bike trails and see how the standing position has changed also.

The stock pegs are SO tiny.


I really want a steering damper now too.
I have the same Toutratech Works Low Footpegs. Only a quarter inch lower, but what a difference. No more cramped knees! I added to this the Touratech brake stop to lower the brake pedal and an adjustable shift lever to match. Comfortable!

I did install the RalleMoto steering damper. Feels good, but can't say it does much on the road, maybe on really big bumps. But, if you off-road, might be worth it for you. Expensive.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:10 PM   #2938
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Personally, I'd put in a good AGM battery long before I' d shell out the $$$ for a Li battery. First, the stock charging system is not correct for most Li batteries which require a 14.4 V float voltage. LiFePO4 batteries charge at 13.6V. AGMs are very tough and reliable, are better at deep discharge and cold than normal wet cells. Unfortunately I have no experience with the 2 I've found: Scorpion and Motobatt. They are probably both made in the same factory in China. I wish Odyssey made one that fit, but they don't currently. Lots of folks talk about the Scorpion. Anyone have the MB12U?
I have the MB12U. Very happy with it! I think $20 over the Scorpion is definitely worth the over 20% of extra capacity. This battery is advertised @ 15AH and, I think it delivers.

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Old 07-07-2013, 07:59 PM   #2939
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Re the charging system, the Voltage Regulator which was used on the the F650GS and F twins was low in output as it was designed for the VRLA batteries from 10 years ago, the VR was upgraded by BMW but uses the same part number and the newer one has a higher voltage output to suit AGM and Lithium batteries, you can see the difference in pics here on Advrider in the "Another alternator hits the dust and not under warranty" thread by the F800 guys

My understanding is the later G Series and the Sertao have this later VR so it should be fine with Lithium and AGM
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:25 AM   #2940
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I had my Sertao in for its first service today. $170. Yikes!

On the plus side, my TT pegs and bar risers were in. I got them installed this evening and can't wait to take the bike out after lunch tomorrow now. I'll have to hit some old dirt bike trails and see how the standing position has changed also.

The stock pegs are SO tiny.


I really want a steering damper now too.
Hi Black09JK,

Did you have to change your brake line in order to fit the bar risers?
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