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Old 07-09-2013, 07:41 AM   #2971
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Re the report from Nylon on fuel type

For the early models we were lucky with a camera pic of a dealer diagnostics screen showing the software versions and what markets/fuel type each was set up for. That was able to be converted to a spreadsheet so we knew what to aske the dealers to program machines for

For all the dual sparks and the G Series we have not been so lucky and the firmware data files are not commented well enough to work out what fuel type settings are available.

The challenge is to ask dealers what options are available and how the settings are made. If we can get that info, a camera shot of a dealer GT1/ISTA screen would be the best, we can document it and add it to the pdf I have for BMSC firmware http://www.f650gs.crossroadz.com.au/.../GSECUInfo.pdf
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:09 AM   #2972
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BalletBiker,
What is wrong with nylons motor?
Does the bike run ?
Is there anything that we can do to help ?
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:29 PM   #2973
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Is there any update on Nylon?
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:47 PM   #2974
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Is there any update on Nylon?
He is probably drinking with beautiful Mongolian chicks, since he knows he will be stuck there for a while .

No, seriously.... Nylon! Where are you? We are worried... Nylon...
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:35 PM   #2975
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I am still getting to know my 2013 Sertao (700 miles) and I noticed two strange things after I picked it up from the 600 miles "break-in" service:
  1. Is the chain supposed to rest on the swing bar like in the image below?
  2. What is that cooling element that is squeezed between the bash plate and the engine block? It is only secured by one zip tie and looks like an afterthought.

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Old 07-09-2013, 07:58 PM   #2976
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I am still getting to know my 2013 Sertao (700 miles) and I noticed two strange things after I picked it up from the 600 miles "break-in" service:
  1. Is the chain supposed to rest on the swing bar like in the image below? Yes.
  2. What is that cooling element that is squeezed between the bash plate and the engine block? It is only secured by one zip tie and looks like an afterthought. Voltage regulator - Been like that since 2003(I think) and don't worry, it is held with more than a cable tie

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Old 07-09-2013, 08:01 PM   #2977
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Thanks, Aquatic -- I will be able to sleep tonight
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:03 PM   #2978
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wait until he changes the oil
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:06 PM   #2979
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Swamp,

I think you keep forgetting that many people still have their ABS;). With the ABS in place, fork extension has no effect on brake line tension at the bars. This is a separate line that goes from the steering head to the bars. But you already knew that .


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Old 07-09-2013, 09:00 PM   #2980
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He is probably drinking with beautiful Mongolian chicks, since he knows he will be stuck there for a while .

No, seriously.... Nylon! Where are you? We are worried... Nylon...
Well, let Nylon know that DHL services Mongolia: Ulaanbaatar City, Erdenet and Darkhan. He can have parts shipped worldwide in a few days if need be.
Of course he may have to push the bike a few hundred miles to one of those cities first.

But honestly, give us the bike's symptoms and maybe we can all think of something to get him rolling again.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:54 PM   #2981
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Giganova, the Voltage Regulator overheats in hot temps mounted under the engine like that, we move them to the side of the engine as per the 650X models
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:19 PM   #2982
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Giganova, the Voltage Regulator overheats in hot temps mounted under the engine like that, we move them to the side of the engine as per the 650X models
Wayne -- That's interesting: my battery overheated two weeks ago when I was stuck in a traffic jam for more than an hour at 95 degrees. Acid spilled out of the battery and fried the accessory outlet; the next day the bike wouldn't start anymore. Got it towed to the BMW dealer who said that the battery had boiled over. From reading your mods site, could that have been caused by the voltage regulator overheating?
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:33 PM   #2983
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Yes, the VR can "drop out" it protects itself basically, this allows the output voltage to go up to 16v and can over charge a battery.

I have not heard of a battery overheating to the point of spewing acid though, the acid spill is more likely poor pre-delvery work

Many owners report having the battery inner cells fluid levels lower than the outer when they check the battery and this can indicate those cells getting hotter than the outer ones. I certainly found that on my 02 model. The battery also needs more regular checking and topping up than other makes/models which indicates a problem.

Since it is a new machine and under warranty I would get the 650X VR mount and put the VR on the side of the engine
The mount is a little expensive but BMW could not complain since it is their own part
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:40 PM   #2984
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He is probably drinking with beautiful Mongolian chicks, since he knows he will be stuck there for a while .

No, seriously.... Nylon! Where are you? We are worried... Nylon...
He found a yurt!!! And is now asking about a fiche no so he can order new clutch plates (or something appropriate) to repair his G650GS Sertao. Can anybody help point me in the right direction to find this? I will need to order it and send it to Oasis Hotel in Ulaanbaatar.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:40 PM   #2985
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the acid spill is more likely poor pre-delvery work
That's what my BMW dealer suspected; they replaced the battery and put in a new accessory outlet on warranty.

Can sealed non-acid batteries handle voltage jumps better? I'm thinking about getting a MotoBatt AMG battery.
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