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Old 07-13-2013, 05:53 PM   #3061
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Great, Thanks
I kinda thought so but I'm nervous about electric's.
When I get a chance, I plan on breaking down all of the electric loads so we all know how much we can use (unless anyone else want to beat me to it).
The 2013 spec says it has a 400W alternator. You should always keep 10% in reserve for charging the battery. That leaves 360W. So, if you can measure how much the engine and headlight use, and then the heated grips, the rest is available for accessories.
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:30 PM   #3062
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The alternator and many other parts are all the same as the older models and the power consumption figures etc are all documented either in the Dakar thread or over at F650.com. Dwayne wrote a little on it recently http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...ostcount=11093

Heated Grips for instance
Power Consumption @13.8v - 42 watts

Half Power Current @13.8v - 2 amps
Full Power Current @13.8v - 3 amps

One thing to remember is that BMW rate the alternator at 7500 RPM, 29 amps, 14v so at lower RPM there is a little less power
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:37 PM   #3063
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Clutch assembly

Can someone send me the pages that explain how to reassemble the clutch? There are a few spacers that I'm not sure what order to put them back in... :(
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:19 PM   #3064
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and...give me the measurements for the plates - i will measure the full stack once cleaned, and hope they aren't too far apart from the recommended size!

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Old 07-13-2013, 11:09 PM   #3065
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Not sure how i posted 3 times in a row, but this is what im looking for:

These are the specs for the F650, i want the equivalent for the Sertao. At least these measurements, but ideally all the info about the clutch! :)

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Old 07-14-2013, 12:47 AM   #3066
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That list above is for the single spark with 8 plates, yours should have 7 of each, Part list for the F's and clutch info is here

http://www.f650gs.crossroadz.com.au/ClutchRepair.html
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:54 AM   #3067
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Good page, but that doesnt give me the sizes for the Sertao...
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:01 AM   #3068
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The sizes will be the same as the F dual spark, it was only the No of plates they changed to stop clutch slip which the single spark suffered from
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:28 AM   #3069
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I have: 7 friction plates, and 6 drive plates. Using that site, and the sizes for the F650GS 04-05 (inner Plates 6 x 2.13 mm and Friction Plates 7 x 3.50 mm - Total height 37.28 mm).

My plates are 35.5mm, +/- a little, as my calipers suck.

2mm is way outside tolerance, so i'll be stacking washers to squash the plates together.

Can someone confirm that the Sertao plates are the same, and should be 37.28mm?
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:04 AM   #3070
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I did a check and the Sertao parts are the same as the G Series 2008 through to 2010 all the same through the series
I would be extremely surprised if there was any physical differences between the F Dual spark and the G Series plates

Think if you check you will find you have 7 steel "drive plates" which brings the stack size up a bit

The numbers you quoted "F650GS 04-05 (inner Plates 6 x 2.13 mm and Friction Plates 7 x 3.50 mm - Total height 37.28 mm)."

Are not as per the source, F650GS 04-05 - Inner Plates 7 x 2.13 mm and Friction Plates 7 x 3.50 mm - Total height 39.38 mm

The wear limit on total stack is 1 mm

EDIT - What they have done is replace the 7th steel plate with 2 x "Judder Rings", measure the stack with those rings included
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Old 07-14-2013, 05:22 AM   #3071
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Can someone send me the pages that explain how to reassemble the clutch? There are a few spacers that I'm not sure what order to put them back in... :(
Images sent. Sorry, I don't have the plate thickness dimensions. Anyone care to chime in?

Good luck! We are all routing for you!
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Old 07-14-2013, 05:48 AM   #3072
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The plate thickess's should be in the RepRom but I would almost put money on them being the same as the dual spark.
It was only the steel plates which changed in thickness between the single spark and dual spark
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:12 AM   #3073
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The front fender breaks off

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Earlier Sertaos had a tendency to break off the beak over the bumpy stuff, so adding weight up there could raise eyebrows. Hope it all works out for you!

Just got back from doing the Utah Backcountry discovery route and I can tell you the front fender will break off without ever crashing this bike. Good news is A&S BMW will replace it for free. Now once the Warranty is up next year I will be on my own. My bike has 17,000 miles on it.

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Old 07-14-2013, 08:50 AM   #3074
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Make sure the plates are oiled before assembly!




Attention
Clutch plates can burn if installed dry.
Immerse the new clutch-plate stack in clean engine oil before installing.


Immerse lined plates (1) in engine oil....

BMW maintenance manual





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Old 07-14-2013, 01:59 PM   #3075
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Eh? Waiting for my new Sertao

Hello all,
I'm new in the forum, but I had been reading all the posts in this title because I will be a proud G650GS Sertao owner, I am waiting for the delivery of my brand new Sertao sometime in September.
And I should say it gave me quite a lot of useful information reading the posts here. Thank you all.

I want to ask a question about the periodic maintenance service of this bike. Here in Turkey, the BMW motorcycle service stations are only located in some big cities. The nearest service is some 1000 km from the town I live. So it seems that I will be doing most of the maintenance on my own.

What I heard from some people here is that, for the new BMW bikes, if you do not take your bike to the BMW service for periodic checks, the bike's computer will lock the engine and you will not be able to start the engine until it's taken to a BMW service. They heard of BMW owners transporting their bikes to BMW service behind a pick up. Actually they were talking about the F800GS owners.
Is it right? And is it right for G650GS's? I never had read anything like this in this forum but after I heard the guys talking about it, I wanted to ask this and make it clear that there is not such a thing. Actually a bike that is built to be ridden all around the earth should not lock itself just because we didn't take it to a BMW service I guess.
And I want to make it clear because 1000 + 1000 = 2000 km's is a long way for a maintenance work.
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