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Old 07-14-2013, 02:23 PM   #3076
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Hello all,
What I heard from some people here is that, for the new BMW bikes, if you do not take your bike to the BMW service for periodic checks, the bike's computer will lock the engine and you will not be able to start the engine until it's taken to a BMW service. .
Not true, first I ever heard of that.

If it WERE true you can damn sure better believe I would drive mine to BMW tomorrow morning and leave it parked on their showroom floor ... muddy as possible of course.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:43 PM   #3077
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Yeah, not true.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:52 PM   #3078
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I have: 7 friction plates, and 6 drive plates. Using that site, and the sizes for the F650GS 04-05 (inner Plates 6 x 2.13 mm and Friction Plates 7 x 3.50 mm - Total height 37.28 mm).

My plates are 35.5mm, +/- a little, as my calipers suck.

2mm is way outside tolerance, so i'll be stacking washers to squash the plates together.

Can someone confirm that the Sertao plates are the same, and should be 37.28mm?
You'll be stacking washers?? I sure hope you mean washers that will fit over the six columns of the clutch basket like the clutch springs do. Because outside the pressure plate (part number 17) will do absolutely no good. nylon 2000 good luck. I wish you could at least get an extra metal plate. Two metal plates side by side in essence increases stack height witch is what you need.
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:15 PM   #3079
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Just got back from doing the Utah Backcountry discovery route and I can tell you the front fender will break off without ever crashing this bike. Good news is A&S BMW will replace it for free. Now once the Warranty is up next year I will be on my own. My bike has 17,000 miles on it.

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Max did my beak for warranty and it wasn't even broken. I read about it here and told them so they put the new reinforced beaker on.
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:18 PM   #3080
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Not true, first I ever heard of that.

If it WERE true you can damn sure better believe I would drive mine to BMW tomorrow morning and leave it parked on their showroom floor ... muddy as possible of course.

+1
I bought the 650 rotax because it is the easiest beemer to work on solo. If I had to truck my bke to the dealer everytime I had to get an oil change I'd not be a happy camper.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:43 PM   #3081
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Old 07-14-2013, 05:41 PM   #3082
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ah pictures. cool ill play too.

thats an awesome skull.
anyway that you can ship that to me for a clean-wine donation ??



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Old 07-14-2013, 06:11 PM   #3083
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Hey Swamp

What fork guards are those? Are they Yamaha or aftermarket/ebay specials?
I'm looking for black guards to go with my fork upgrade. White and blue are plenty.
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Old 07-14-2013, 06:19 PM   #3084
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On the fence for a Sertao

Hey guys, I have a KTM 950, currently in the shop. Should get it out next week, around $2500 or so, ouch, but should be well sorted finally.
I DO NOT want a high maitenance bike!
Have had KLRs, BMW 800s, and now the KTM 950 and a KLX 250.
Bought the Adventure to run longer trips down the highway, then hitting fire roads.
Have the KLX for tight stuff, but its a dog and too small for real traveling.
KLRs were OK, but under powered and cheap parts. Decent luck traveling with them.
BMW 800 good bike but parallel twin had bad vibes that killed me.

So, would selling the KTM and KLX be worth it to have the Sertao? I just want a simple bike with lower costs, 3 year warranty, and more support around the US than KTM. KTM and BMW are both 100 miles away from my house. I hate driving that far for service.
I understand to take it easy with the Sertao on the highway, but 75 should be fine slabbing all day right?
I like that its more nimble and lighter off road also.

Thanks for any suggestions.
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Old 07-14-2013, 06:40 PM   #3085
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damn 2k ! what was wrong with the ktm ? did you have them change the oil ?

sorry had to jab ya'
the sertao is a fun bike and responds well to modifications.
the only thing i dont like about it is that it doesnt have a large tank...but hey, just carry an extra gallon.
the motor is reliable. they've been making it for a long time.


question about the fork guards:
hell if i know they are the ones that came with the forks !
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:05 PM   #3086
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damn 2k ! what was wrong with the ktm ? did you have them change the oil ?

sorry had to jab ya'
the sertao is a fun bike and responds well to modifications.
the only thing i dont like about it is that it doesnt have a large tank...but hey, just carry an extra gallon.
the motor is reliable. they've been making it for a long time.


question about the fork guards:
hell if i know they are the ones that came with the forks !
Long story short on 950.
Fuel pump issues, lead to other issues. New fuel pump.
New sprockets and chain due to stalling bike on my 3000 mile trip.
Previous owner tried to remove emmissions. Didn't succeed. Tons of backpressure. Siliconed everything, so redone with backoff plates the right way.
All emmissions removed correctly. Had to have new FMFs, aluminum (600 bucks) to fix main backpressure from mis-drilled out cans.
Choke cables were reversed? What? Had to fix that.
While in there, adjusted valves.
Noticed someone tinkered with needle, wrong, so new main jet.
Then noticed o rings were leaking fuel on manifold so new carb kit.
Changed oils and all screens and filters.
Had them install my new Cycra handgaurds while it was torn apart.
No waterpump rebuild, that was last year, oh joy, I save $1200!

They might even wash it before it comes home. Oh that would be nice...........

Assured it would purr like a kitten when I got it back. It better roar like a tiger!
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:02 AM   #3087
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Hey guys, I have a KTM 950, currently in the shop. Should get it out next week, around $2500 or so, ouch, but should be well sorted finally.
I DO NOT want a high maitenance bike!
Have had KLRs, BMW 800s, and now the KTM 950 and a KLX 250.
Bought the Adventure to run longer trips down the highway, then hitting fire roads.
Have the KLX for tight stuff, but its a dog and too small for real traveling.
KLRs were OK, but under powered and cheap parts. Decent luck traveling with them.
BMW 800 good bike but parallel twin had bad vibes that killed me.

So, would selling the KTM and KLX be worth it to have the Sertao? I just want a simple bike with lower costs, 3 year warranty, and more support around the US than KTM. KTM and BMW are both 100 miles away from my house. I hate driving that far for service.
I understand to take it easy with the Sertao on the highway, but 75 should be fine slabbing all day right?
I like that its more nimble and lighter off road also.

Thanks for any suggestions.
Good morning. Like you I've had a lot of bikes looking for the correct one. Including the Wee Strom and KLR.

The BMW is indeed a fine bike. Like you are finding out, people get in trouble trying to outthink the engineers that designed the bike. They remove the stock exhaust with oxygen sensor and wonder why this bike overheats? People have 650s with many, many trouble free miles. I suggest you try the BMW with BMW luggage and don't mess with the engine. I'd bet you'll be happy. Good luck.
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:12 AM   #3088
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Not true, first I ever heard of that.

If it WERE true you can damn sure better believe I would drive mine to BMW tomorrow morning and leave it parked on their showroom floor ... muddy as possible of course.
Thank you very much for the reply, it is good to know that.
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:58 AM   #3089
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I have done much bike swapping to get to the "perfect bike"...everything from singletrack enduro bikes to 1200 tourers and various combos. Long story short...I don't miss the bigger bikes at all since I do not generally go on any long road trips, and the Sertao is plenty comfy for that when the need arises (and actually keeps me riding a bit more responsibly too). If I was riding cross country to the West coast, I would probably want to bump up to something bigger.

The Sertao does surprisingly well off-road, but that being said I am not a novice. It sounds like you have some experience there, so you can probably wrangle the 650 down some moderate offroad trails.

I will say that I do miss having a dedicated off-road bike for the few times a year I can enter an event that allows for real woods riding. Those times are so few and far between that it is hard to justify a second bike though, and the BMW gets me 80% of the way there.

I would say its probably the best "one bike" option out there right now. I was going anywhere the guys on KTM 690s went (maybe a little slower and at greater risk of damage, but still I was right there with them), but I can also ride comfortably with my wife on the back.

Every bike has its flaws and I discovered that the Sertao has soft rims for rocky riding (apparently most BMWs have this problem). The fork actually was ok if you remind yourself of the pace the bike was designed for. I do plan on some of the cheaper fork upgrades (stiffer springs, heavier oil, set the preload properly), but that is really the extent of what makes sense on the bike. The stock gearing is a bit tall, and I have been very happy with a one tooth smaller front sprocket (cheap mod). If you ride in the dust, you will need to get a way overpriced foam filter from Touratech.

All in all, it was the best sorted bike of the showroom floor for what I wanted to do. It ought to be a keeper as long as I keep any street riding in the mix.



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Hey guys, I have a KTM 950, currently in the shop. Should get it out next week, around $2500 or so, ouch, but should be well sorted finally.
I DO NOT want a high maitenance bike!
Have had KLRs, BMW 800s, and now the KTM 950 and a KLX 250.
Bought the Adventure to run longer trips down the highway, then hitting fire roads.
Have the KLX for tight stuff, but its a dog and too small for real traveling.
KLRs were OK, but under powered and cheap parts. Decent luck traveling with them.
BMW 800 good bike but parallel twin had bad vibes that killed me.

So, would selling the KTM and KLX be worth it to have the Sertao? I just want a simple bike with lower costs, 3 year warranty, and more support around the US than KTM. KTM and BMW are both 100 miles away from my house. I hate driving that far for service.
I understand to take it easy with the Sertao on the highway, but 75 should be fine slabbing all day right?
I like that its more nimble and lighter off road also.

Thanks for any suggestions.
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