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Old 05-22-2012, 10:56 AM   #151
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I was having the same problems. (Running Rotella reg oil). Hammer it at 4K and slip a K. I talked to Rekluse and they sent me 6 thinner smooth disk. I was then able to use another/added friction disk.

This helped a lot, but still not quite there.

I then installed the 3 heavier wts. at Rekluse's suggestion. Now it is spot on.
Thanks for the reminder, I had already re-read your posts a ways back.
I figured I'd give it some time, and try to install the heavier weights, springs, and a bigger oil jet etc, before I called Rekluse.
It sure is nice to know they are so willing to solve problems, if I cannot.


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I think if you did'nt know the bike had a rekluse in it and I let you try my bike, you would'nt even know it was Reklused. I can now break loose the rear in gravel, just like the OEM clutch. Its dang near perfect for me. And I have complete engine breaking going downhill, same as the OEM, unless you were to clutch it for a moment.

I'm completel sastified and happy!!
Agreed. Most would not know at all.
It even takes off normally, when I do use the clutch lever like "old" normal.

But, I've found that I could now go UP such loose and gnarly steep stuff,... that when I wanna go back down the same hill in first gear, I could not go fast enough to keep the revs up high enough (plain-old skeered to ), to keep the clutch engaged while braking heavily. I can lightly blip the throttle to just 2k, and it easily catches again, but that one hill was still just too steep and loose that I just had to slow back down to idle. But it's only an issue on such rare & extreme, loose & steep, downhill stuff. I've become much better with the front brake in this kinda loose stuff, and my balance, that I will not complain about this one seldom encountered and rare "con", with all the great "pro" gains this autoclutch offers under normal & heavy-duty use.
The front brake, used with a small throttle blip, got the clutch engaged without much gain of forward momentum.

Oh, one important thing to mention here:
If I do happen to overbrake the rear brake on this kinda steep downhill loose & nasty stuff,...
...It won't kill the motor now !!
That used to scare the crap out of me
I'll trade the clutch auto engaging, over a killed motor, any day !!


ALL other normal riding engine braking still works perfectly, the exact same as it used to.
Shifting up and down is as normal it was with stock setup.
Downshifting still offers the same confidence inspiring and progressive engine braking I have come to enjoy, on both dirt and paved.
Street shifting feels completely unchanged, excepting our small "slip" issue.


These are the issues that kept me from the old Z-Start Pro model.
This new EXP.???.....I likey a lots
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:02 AM   #152
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'Still wondering why folks are wasting time and money on these clutches...

If they all worked perfectly straight out of the box, I might understand that they provide value in maybe 1% of the riding conditions you'd likely experience, but with the cost of these things, and the tuning frustrations, why bother?

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I don't see the tuning problems as that big of a deal. Motos are different and if you want your moto to run the way you like, you need to tune it. Why buy it and take the time to tune it? Why not For me, riding a big moto off-road for 8 hours a day, day after day, can tire you out. If I can eliminate one item, using the clutch, thats great.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:03 AM   #153
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'Still wondering why folks are wasting time and money on these clutches...

If they all worked perfectly straight out of the box, I might understand that they provide value in maybe 1% of the riding conditions you'd likely experience, but with the cost of these things, and the tuning frustrations, why bother?

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I can now ride up loose & steep rutted stuff, SLOWLY, while paddling my feet for stability,
...stuff that I could never ride it up before in the 4+ years and over 35k miles I've ridden it...

I used to have to fricken GO FOR IT, try and use the clutch, then spin out, and kill it,....... and promptly fall down

Sure it might be 1% of the time for some. But I'd be off the bike and PUSHING it in those times.


If you rode mine on this kind of stuff, you would very quickly understand ......
....this is a revolution for me on this big pig.

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Old 05-22-2012, 12:24 PM   #154
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Apple Jam. All the reasons and more why I thought an EXP would be good for me. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I can hardly wait for mine to show up. Cool.
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Old 05-22-2012, 01:13 PM   #155
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Apple Jam. All the reasons and more why I thought an EXP would be good for me. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I can hardly wait for mine to show up. Cool.
I see your location is PNW......
so.....when are we gonna get together so you can ride mine & check the EXP out?
I'm taking this Friday off after about 11am to go ride, how close are you to Hood River?
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:07 PM   #156
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I see your location is PNW......
so.....when are we gonna get together so you can ride mine & check the EXP out?
I'm taking this Friday off after about 11am to go ride, how close are you to Hood River?
Oh damn. Sorry man, I'm way-way too far north to take you up on that. Thanks though. Sounds like a blast. Have fun, ride safe.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:34 PM   #157
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ride safe.
Hey...I don't talk bad to you like that !!


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Old 05-23-2012, 10:11 AM   #158
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just a little concerned about the friction plates wearing out prematurly.
All the riders out of our shop say their clutch wear is BETTER with the Rekluse systems.

Especially the 2-stroke riders, where clutch abuse/slipping is the norm & they can get replaced twice a year by some who ride a lot. With the Rekluse, several riders have now been using the same clutch packs for over 3 years... YMMV but that's a consensus I hear when talking to people riding other brands as well
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:03 AM   #159
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Today i have send an email with a question if the Exp will work with the Radical Master Cylinder ,so when they will reply to me i inform you
Until now nobody answer my question from the rekluse company and i'm sad for the customer service & technical of the rekluse company i think they must answer in 48 hour's from the time you send them a question
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Old 05-26-2012, 08:54 PM   #160
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Question for the 990 Rekluses with the new configuration

So what is the optimal config wedge/spring wise once you have the 6 new thinner steels and the additional fiber?

I read guys talking about installing "three heavy wedges". Are you installing three medium and three heavy alternating each spot? Or are you installing all six heavys?

What about the springs, any changes there or stock?

I spoke to a kid at Rekluse but he didnt seem to think any changes would help the 4k slipping (except the new steels/fibers). He said try it first but I thought I might be able to glean some wisdom from the forum.

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Old 05-27-2012, 05:16 AM   #161
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So what is the optimal config wedge/spring wise once you have the 6 new thinner steels and the additional fiber?

I read guys talking about installing "three heavy wedges". Are you installing three medium and three heavy alternating each spot? Or are you installing all six heavys?

What about the springs, any changes there or stock?

I spoke to a kid at Rekluse but he didnt seem to think any changes would help the 4k slipping (except the new steels/fibers). He said try it first but I thought I might be able to glean some wisdom from the forum.

Thanks!
If I said 3 wedges, was wrong, there are 6. And after installing the thinner plates, which allows one more friction plate, my bike was 95% there or almost where I wanted/felt like it should be.

Then, upon the Rekluse's tech suggestion, I traded out the 6 med wedges for the 6 heavy wedges.

Now I have my bike exactly where I want it.

BTY, when I first start my bike, and its cold, it will crunch pretty good and creep while in gear. But after warming up to 4 bars, its smooth and no creep, easy to find neutral without clutch and no spin/slippage above 3K rpm.

But since I'm using the heavy wedges, there is very little slack in go/don't go. Or if the idle is 1400, it will take off with barley any throttle or 1550 or 1600, so you better be ready. I also go ahead and use the clutch as normal when shifting much of the time.

And, as I said before, with this setup, I ahve excellent hookup when going down hill or coasting.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:17 AM   #162
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Yeah the rekluse is magic. Pure magic.

..Now if they'd only finish building mine....

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Old 06-01-2012, 06:58 AM   #163
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:38 PM   #164
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Installed and working perfect! thanx cj
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:36 PM   #165
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Installed and working perfect! thanx cj
Any slippage 4-5k range as noted by others? Stock settings?

Still waiting on mine...

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