R100GS Nissin 4-piston caliper conversion - Page 25

richarddacat · 07-05-2008, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigars&Scotch

If any one has a spare hose for a 6 piston Tokiko, please PM me. I would prefer the one with the adapter at the MC. Mine has a angled bonjo and bolt, and I would prefer the straight fitting.

did you see post #345?

Cigars&Scotch · 07-05-2008, 08:55 PM

Dohh!

PM sent

krummholz · 09-24-2008, 11:34 PM

y'all mind if i ask what you paid for the 6 pot tokico's? I can't find anything for less than $60 shipped. That's pretty steep compared with solo's. i''ve looked at all the references and cross referenced the pads and feel i have come up with a fairly complete search... I'm kinda sick of looking, and I KNOW the missus is sick of me taking up the computer... so, just to prove that we are the most penny tech sob's here, hook a brutha up!

johno · 09-25-2008, 12:36 AM

I think it is just luck to pick up a cheap set.

I paid $19.95 + postage for mine from US Ebay.

Either Kawasaki, or Suzuki use them.

Zebedee · 09-25-2008, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johno

I think it is just luck to pick up a cheap set.

I paid $19.95 + postage for mine from US Ebay.

Either Kawasaki, or Suzuki use them.

I was in for a pair of 4 pots on Fleabay US but someone else managed to pick them up for just over $30 ...

I've waited this long, what's another week or three.

Cheers

John

mcma111 · 09-25-2008, 06:52 AM

OK, So I posted this on 5/19 and believe it or not it is still there...

E-Bay item #180060334166. 6 pot Tokico caliper. Buy It Now for $25.00 with $13.50 shipping

Your Welcome

krummholz · 09-25-2008, 05:30 PM

Thank you for pointing that out, but here is where things get complicated. I found a couple that are like that for a reasonable price. However! they don't take the same brake pad as the hayabusa/zx9r or the gsxr calipers you all see to have. If we are talking EBC, the one you pointed out takes FA158 whereas all the ones that have been mentioned here take FA188.

Is the consesus that all tokico 6 pots of this shape will work?

Tripletreat · 12-22-2008, 05:22 PM

I'm making the upgrade to the Tokico 6 piston caliper on my 1988 R100GS. I'm at the stage of plumbing it and wonder about the use of a single SS line from the master cylinder. Wouldn't the easier path be to simply change out the solid steel line that runs from the Brembo caliper up to the flexible line on the fork slider? As you might guess, I already have a SS line (and an OEM 15mm master cylinder) that I'd just as soon retain. TIA for recommendations/ideas.

Beemerboff · 12-23-2008, 03:50 PM

No problem with doing it that way- my caliper came with the short hose attached and it fitted straight on to my existing braided line.

However , I decided that a one piece braided line would be better , and changed to one.

Cant tell the difference.

If you have one caliper you want a smaller m/c than 15 mm - the smaller the better.
Ducati fitted a 11 mm m/c with two similar Brembo calipers with no problems so it should work fine for you with one .

Most brake shops will be able to sleeve your existing cylinder down to whatever you want, or look out for a 12mm on ebay.

jimbee · 12-30-2008, 06:11 PM

Anybody try a 4 pot Tokico? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=280297007239

SOLO's observations seem to open up all sorts of possibilities?

I had my heart set on 4 pots b/c I didn't want to scare myself with unexpected lock ups! But... there seems to be way more 6 pots on ebay... any reason why these wouldn't work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...#ht_500wt_1562

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ht_1598wt_1547

Hopefully we don't bid each other up on this stuff :)

Cheers! JB

johno · 12-31-2008, 12:14 AM

I think the 4pot Tokico has different piston sizes to the Nissin 4pot.
Not sure what difference that would make though.

I have the 6pot Tokico on my GSPD

SOLO LOBO · 12-31-2008, 07:23 AM

I thought the 4-pot had more "feel" when breaking, and was very strong.. the 6-pot was definately stronger, but with less feel.....

I would choose the 4-pot myself, unless I did mostly slab two-up.

johno · 12-31-2008, 02:15 PM

95% of my riding is slab. I dont have an issue with the 6pot, although I rode one with a 4pot yesterday, and it certainly did the job, just needed a bit more "hand"
I am looking at a bigger disc, and then may go back to a 4pot.

Which ever you use, it will be an improvement on original

jimbee · 01-08-2009, 11:24 AM

Thanks for the help! I bought a full front Nissin brake set up (both calipers, hoses, and master cylinder) off a 1998 Suzuki Bandit on fleabay for $20 and HPM Guy's adapter is on the way! Now I just need to sort out a hose. I already have a SS speigler line. I can't decide on just going to a brake shop and getting them to make a new metal line to mate with the new caliper or just to go and buy a whole new line? Probably go with new line if for no other reason than it looks cooler

SOLO LOBO · 01-08-2009, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbee

I can't decide on just going to a brake shop and getting them to make a new metal line to mate with the new caliper or just to go and buy a whole new line?

Well, the caliper and the BMW bits should all be 10mm.....

07-05-2008, 08:55 PM	#362
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09-24-2008, 11:34 PM	#363
krummholz Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2007 Location: Ballard, WA Oddometer: 244	y'all mind if i ask what you paid for the 6 pot tokico's? I can't find anything for less than $60 shipped. That's pretty steep compared with solo's. i''ve looked at all the references and cross referenced the pads and feel i have come up with a fairly complete search... I'm kinda sick of looking, and I KNOW the missus is sick of me taking up the computer... so, just to prove that we are the most penny tech sob's here, hook a brutha up! __________________ 1989 BMW R100GS 1979 Vespa P200E

09-25-2008, 12:36 AM	#364
johno Beastly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Mount Gambier, South Australia, Australia. Oddometer: 2,893	I think it is just luck to pick up a cheap set. I paid $19.95 + postage for mine from US Ebay. Either Kawasaki, or Suzuki use them. __________________ Down in the land of the confused(mainly me)

09-25-2008, 06:52 AM	#366
mcma111 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco,Ca. Oddometer: 7,986	The Deal OK, So I posted this on 5/19 and believe it or not it is still there... E-Bay item #180060334166. 6 pot Tokico caliper. Buy It Now for $25.00 with $13.50 shipping Your Welcome __________________ Steve in SF BMW's 58 R26 79 R100s 91 R100gs 87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project

09-25-2008, 05:30 PM	#367
krummholz Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2007 Location: Ballard, WA Oddometer: 244	Thank you for pointing that out, but here is where things get complicated. I found a couple that are like that for a reasonable price. However! they don't take the same brake pad as the hayabusa/zx9r or the gsxr calipers you all see to have. If we are talking EBC, the one you pointed out takes FA158 whereas all the ones that have been mentioned here take FA188. Is the consesus that all tokico 6 pots of this shape will work? __________________ 1989 BMW R100GS 1979 Vespa P200E

12-22-2008, 05:22 PM	#368
Tripletreat Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Oddometer: 408	R100GS Tokico brake upgrade I'm making the upgrade to the Tokico 6 piston caliper on my 1988 R100GS. I'm at the stage of plumbing it and wonder about the use of a single SS line from the master cylinder. Wouldn't the easier path be to simply change out the solid steel line that runs from the Brembo caliper up to the flexible line on the fork slider? As you might guess, I already have a SS line (and an OEM 15mm master cylinder) that I'd just as soon retain. TIA for recommendations/ideas.

12-23-2008, 03:50 PM	#369
Beemerboff Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2005 Oddometer: 2,052	No problem with doing it that way- my caliper came with the short hose attached and it fitted straight on to my existing braided line. However , I decided that a one piece braided line would be better , and changed to one. Cant tell the difference. If you have one caliper you want a smaller m/c than 15 mm - the smaller the better. Ducati fitted a 11 mm m/c with two similar Brembo calipers with no problems so it should work fine for you with one . Most brake shops will be able to sleeve your existing cylinder down to whatever you want, or look out for a 12mm on ebay. __________________ Adelaide Hills, Australia. 93 R100 GS, 77 R75/7 ,70 BSA B44VS, , 86 R80 G/S PD, 95 BMW Funduro F650 ST

12-30-2008, 06:11 PM	#370
jimbee Airhead Intermediate Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Vancouver BC / Reno NV Oddometer: 318	how about these... Anybody try a 4 pot Tokico? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=280297007239 SOLO's observations seem to open up all sorts of possibilities? I had my heart set on 4 pots b/c I didn't want to scare myself with unexpected lock ups! But... there seems to be way more 6 pots on ebay... any reason why these wouldn't work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...#ht_500wt_1562 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ht_1598wt_1547 Hopefully we don't bid each other up on this stuff :) Cheers! JB

12-31-2008, 12:14 AM	#371
johno Beastly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Mount Gambier, South Australia, Australia. Oddometer: 2,893	I think the 4pot Tokico has different piston sizes to the Nissin 4pot. Not sure what difference that would make though. I have the 6pot Tokico on my GSPD __________________ Down in the land of the confused(mainly me)

12-31-2008, 02:15 PM	#373
johno Beastly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Mount Gambier, South Australia, Australia. Oddometer: 2,893	95% of my riding is slab. I dont have an issue with the 6pot, although I rode one with a 4pot yesterday, and it certainly did the job, just needed a bit more "hand" I am looking at a bigger disc, and then may go back to a 4pot. Which ever you use, it will be an improvement on original __________________ Down in the land of the confused(mainly me)

01-08-2009, 11:24 AM	#374
jimbee Airhead Intermediate Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Vancouver BC / Reno NV Oddometer: 318	Thanks for the help! I bought a full front Nissin brake set up (both calipers, hoses, and master cylinder) off a 1998 Suzuki Bandit on fleabay for $20 and HPM Guy's adapter is on the way! Now I just need to sort out a hose. I already have a SS speigler line. I can't decide on just going to a brake shop and getting them to make a new metal line to mate with the new caliper or just to go and buy a whole new line? Probably go with new line if for no other reason than it looks cooler

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