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Old 04-08-2012, 08:37 AM   #151
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Your ideas look good there Madman.

You might even be able to step up to a much brighter BA9 in the eyebrow slot for the Parking Bulb - I used BA9s-xHP9 in my gauges and they certainly cast some light.

I had a brain fart earlier when I didn't recommend a BA9 for the Parking Bulb, as somehow in the process of writing the post I forgot you had an RT! BA9 LED alternatives will be fine in the eyebrow spot.

I will still offer my recommendation for a Beacon II for the stop/tail, but what you have selected should work fine (as long as there is room in the assembly!).

For all your 1156 alternatives, I used the 45T option and while the 18Ts will be fine, they will put out a bit less light.

Unfortunately, there are no sure-fire "tested" idiot (telltale) dash indicator replacements that I can recommend for your cluster. All I've confirmed are the 74-xHP3s on my '93 GS. Since you have a single indicator for the turn signal channel, the use of a Kisan dual-channel flasher or installation of a diode or resistor would be mandatory. I like the Kisan solution since it is plug-and-play with inline taps for your turn signal channels. According to Kisan, hooking up the two-channel wires will allow for independent control of left/right signal channels and four-way flashers. However, the single indicator for turn signals in the dash may complicate things and I have not tested this! You would be a pioneering guinea pig on this aspect...

Post some picts of your existing Flasher Relay and I can offer help finding the right Kisan flasher for you. At a minimum, you could still use a standard incandescent bulb in the dash turn signal spot and still get all the advantages of the Kisan while running LEDs in the turn signals themselves.

LEDs in the High Beam, Oil Pressure, and Neutral indicators should work, but as you can recall from WU7X's post there might be issues. But his other wiring issues may have prevented these from working.

Best I can recommend for these three indicators is to take measurements of your existing bulbs with a micrometer and match them to the offerings at SBLEDs.com. Then give them a try and let me know!
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:52 AM   #152
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No Kisan, think Iīll get this;
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...CF13GL-02.html
That should be the right one.
Iīm not using the eyebrow, moved it to the headlight. So will use a low output one.
Only have to figure out the warning/instrument lights, think I saw it in another thread.
The most important ones will be those 2 staying on the whole time, would save me half an amp!
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Old 04-08-2012, 02:31 PM   #153
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That relay should substitute fine for the three prong stock flasher, but I'd stay away from trying to use an LED in the turn signal indicator spot.

Let me know how things turn out, and post picts of your progress (PM me if you need help getting a photo hosting acct setup).
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:03 PM   #154
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For the oil, neutral and high beam telltales, I think 74 - R/G/B HP.
For the tach/odo., WLED - G5.
Last, for the turn light, WLED - G4.
The rest I wrote about earlier.
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:00 PM   #155
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Hans, very good information. I'm still playing with mine setup. Will have a friend over, hopefully this weekend, to help me go through the harness issues once more. Hopefully after that, we should be able to get everything buttoned up and I'll write out a complete report. Ignatz72, if I send you some pics could you post them for me?

One final thing. I still will have to rebuild a new harness for the Squire sidecar. PO soldered the bulbs into the sockets. I want to go with LEDs, so will be ordering new sockets anyway....
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:02 PM   #156
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I put in some of the ledīs today.
For the ĻpodĻ;
In the corners I put in WLED-G5. They just fit the opening. On one of them I needed to bend the wire on the bulb outward, so it hit metall in the socket.
For the turn signal warning light, WLED-G4-90. 74-R/B/GHP for the oil/high beam/neutral. Didnīt get to test the neutral because not able to put it in neutral right now. They all work, canīt tell about brightness/strenght yet, pod not assembled.
BA7S-G for clock/volt. A bit hard to twist them in there, the edge holding against the socket is probably 1 mm higher.
Seemed to be a bit greener than original bulbs.
In the rear 67-W15 for the rear light, 1156-R18-T for brake and 1156-A18-T for turn light. All of these pretty much looked like the original bulbs. Maybe a tad weaker. I had to swap pos./neg. wires for rear lights, since center must be pos.
On turn lights center was pos., so no need for swap. Also got their relay, blinked at normal rate.
So everything worked, Iīm happy so far with my selection.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:37 AM   #157
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I put in some of the ledīs today.
For the ĻpodĻ;
In the corners I put in WLED-G5. They just fit the opening. On one of them I needed to bend the wire on the bulb outward, so it hit metall in the socket.
For the turn signal warning light, WLED-G4-90. 74-R/B/GHP for the oil/high beam/neutral. Didnīt get to test the neutral because not able to put it in neutral right now. They all work, canīt tell about brightness/strenght yet, pod not assembled.
BA7S-G for clock/volt. A bit hard to twist them in there, the edge holding against the socket is probably 1 mm higher.
Seemed to be a bit greener than original bulbs.
In the rear 67-W15 for the rear light, 1156-R18-T for brake and 1156-A18-T for turn light. All of these pretty much looked like the original bulbs. Maybe a tad weaker. I had to swap pos./neg. wires for rear lights, since center must be pos.
On turn lights center was pos., so no need for swap. Also got their relay, blinked at normal rate.
So everything worked, Iīm happy so far with my selection.
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Great news all around Hans!

I am glad all the pod bulbs worked well for you, and you are officially the first successful '95 RT LED pod converter. :tip'o'the'hat

On the turn signal bulbs, I had a feeling the 1156-x18T bulbs might be a bit too dull, I have been super pleased with the 1156-x45Ts on my bike and will continue to recommend them. I will use your opinion here about them being a bit weaker than stock as encouragement to spend the few extra bucks for the 45s if anyone else is on the fence.

Congrats! And thanks very much for reporting back in.

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Old 04-30-2012, 07:00 AM   #158
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I put leds in the instrument cluster of my 78 R100S. At night I noticed the brake fluid level warning light and the oil pressure light burning very dimly. I checked the brake fluid level and it's switch. They were OK. I was beginning to suspect the oil pressure switch when I noticed the oil pressure indicator light would go out when I changed gears from neutral. With leds taking such low wattage, I imagined some sort of voltage leaking on the printed circuit board in the cluster. It was so unnerving I switched the indicator bulbs back but left the leds for the gauges. I no longer get any dimly lit indicator bulbs, just on or off.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:31 PM   #159
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I put leds in the instrument cluster of my 78 R100S. [...] With leds taking such low wattage, I imagined some sort of voltage leaking on the printed circuit board in the cluster.
Thanks for the good info, we haven't seen much luck yet with the PCB style clusters (with exception of those who directly soldered in their own LEDs and wiring).

I'm inclined to agree with the voltage leak hypothesis, and wonder if some very small resistors might somehow be able to be incorporated into each channel in these clusters?

So far for gauges, the best results have come from models where every bulb has its own discrete wiring per socket.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:55 PM   #160
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I put the pod together. Those 74-XHP are bright. The warning light thatīs going to stay on for a while, the long beam, I would recommend the 74-B.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...cs%2F74-x.html

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Old 05-05-2012, 10:27 AM   #161
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been skimming through this thread- lots of info!

i am planning on changing to LED's on my 81 R80 G/S in turn signals with the Kisan SM-1 and use the running light feature. Do i need to replace the dash turn indicator bulb to LED, or can i just use the incandescent if using running light option?

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Old 05-05-2012, 12:03 PM   #162
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I'm not 100% sure on single dash indicator bikes, even with the Kisan, how an LED would behave. Some have reported cross-talk between channels with a single dash indicator as LED.

HOWEVER, as I understand it from the Kisan website, if you connect all the appropriate wiretaps that enable the running light feature, it should eliminate crosstalk since you have created a two-channel turn signal system out of the single channel.

Since the LED indicator bulbs are really inexpensive anyway, it is worth a try in my opinion. Report back what you find!
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:51 AM   #163
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Guess that motoradelectric doesn't have a beacon tail light to fit r80 g/s. suggestions on best option for LED tail/brake light for my upgrade?

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Old 05-09-2012, 11:03 AM   #164
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If you could post a picture of your taillight, I may have ideas to throw your way...
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:58 AM   #165
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tail light is standard R80 G/S. Guess the Beacon 1/2 don't fit according to Motorad. The current bulb is a standard 1157.

When installing the SM-1, where is the best place to tap into the turn signal wires? The wire harness and taps supplied are quite long. I would think should hook in as close to flasher as possible (blue/red and blue/black)?

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