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Old 01-10-2012, 01:02 PM   #31
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Maybe as a start I could get everybody with various skid plates to measure how far their skid plate is from the bottom and top of the oil cooler (not the filter as they may be a bit different) to give me an idea on the angle/distance of their skid plates? Inside dimensions are fine as I can calculate it from there.

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Oops, I forgot to measure from the bottom, but here is a start:



Hope this helps (and of course I expect a discount )
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:57 PM   #32
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Thanks tvaranda!

Initially it looks like it will fit with this skid plate. The projection from the front is very similar to ours so it only leaves a question of the angle and it also depends on the height at which the Tool Box is mounted...


I just got in trouble from dendrophobe so here are the latest updates (I was just about to post 'em...really!)

We're staying with welding and the double bend corners!! You spoke we listened!

Some pics of what it's looking like:




So here are the last questions/options all concerning the lock mechanism:

1. Key lock with a plastic dust cover -most $$
2. Hex key (probably 4mm to keep it small)
3. Philips (more secure than the slot)
4. a totally different shape like a triangle



We are gearing up to have it available for late Feb. /early March and we will be showing them at the upcoming Vancouver Moto Show.

Thanks very much for the feedback so far!

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Old 01-11-2012, 02:53 PM   #33
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So here are the last questions/options all concerning the lock mechanism:

1. Key lock with a plastic dust cover -most $$
2. Hex key (probably 4mm to keep it small)
3. Philips (more secure than the slot)
4. a totally different shape like a triangle



We are gearing up to have it available for late Feb. /early March and we will be showing them at the upcoming Vancouver Moto Show.

Thanks very much for the feedback so far!

Dave
HEX! always have a Torx and Allen wrench under the seat would be easy to access that to unlock the tool box

heck I sometimes have my allen wrench set in my tank bag.....

or Torx seeing how almost the entire 800 is torx and all
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:58 PM   #34
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Dave use something that comes under the seat I don't care for philips or slot
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:00 PM   #35
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Hex or key with a cover. Are they going to be available in black? Do you have any pics of the back side? Will it have a couple of holes in the back as a mounting point? I am planning on mounting it inside my rear rack and I can drill my own mouting holes but was just wondering what sort of mounting set up it comes with stock.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:16 PM   #36
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key+cover.
i dont want to find my toolbox empty when i need it.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:22 PM   #37
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I would be interested in the dimensions of this box to see if it will work with my XR650R skidplate. Since I don't ride a KLR, I can't use the ABS pipe method lol
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:46 PM   #38
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Should we assume no annodized black to control costs?

Any plans for an AvdRider "group buy"?
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:23 PM   #39
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Can you post a pic showing how the lid operates? Is it hinged or does it slip over a lip to keep it in place. What are the inside dimensions? How does it attach to a bashplate, i.e. are there holes tobolt it on or studs welded in place?
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:45 PM   #40
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Looks great, Dave!

Since torx is out of the question, I'd go with either hex or key w/cover. Will it be available in black? (black costing more is fine, I'd just like the option to match the skid plate)

What's the final word on waterproofing? I assume it's about the same level of waterproof as the old box was?

Assuming I can get one in black, put me on the list, I definitely want one. Thanks for listening to all our feedback!
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:56 PM   #41
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Ooops I forgot to put dimensions!

Length inside: 291mm
Length outside: 295mm

Height: 120mm

Depth @ top: 71mm
Depth @ bottom: 78mm
both at deepest points

They will be black powder coated and we MAY offer naked which is what I've shown above so it's easy to see everything.

Door is hinged at the bottom with a stainless steel piano hinge.

There are two 1/4" carriage bolt (square) holes in the back. They are positioned roughly 36mm from the bottom and 125mm apart. We supply the mounting hardware which is 1/4" carriage bolts, washers and Nyloc nuts...all stainless. This bolts right up to our skid plate through the small slots we have in the front near the top. The carriage bolts mount in through the back so there's no removing it from the outside.

The hardware can all be flipped around to be mounted on other skid plates or other areas...i.e. inside the rear rack. That had been done with the previous iteration as well.

Waterproofness should be pretty good...maybe not 100% but close. At least as good as before but we will hopefully refine the gasketing even more.

Sorry we won't be doing a group buy.

I don't think Torx is an option but I should know more tomorrow. There is a Philips under the seat but I guess hex would be choice #2 then. It'll be pretty easy to put one under there too. Just don't lose it or you'll be chasing down a cyclist.

Hmmm any more votes?

Thanks everybody so far!!

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Old 01-11-2012, 09:54 PM   #42
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G'Day Dave,

I reckon all the above is good version two development and all on the right track to make a significantly improved version, my 02 is make it a tad higher, maybe 5-10mm might be enough.

Our current ones are a bit small for our large tool rolls even though we have two of them (one on each bike) to fill . It makes putting them in past the lock tab a shove and push operation even after carefully packing the rolls to make em as small as possible.

Do you reckon it might be possible for me to marry the new lock to ours?
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:13 AM   #43
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G'Day Dave,

I reckon all the above is good version two development and all on the right track to make a significantly improved version, my 02 is make it a tad higher, maybe 5-10mm might be enough.

Our current ones are a bit small for our large tool rolls even though we have two of them (one on each bike) to fill . It makes putting them in past the lock tab a shove and push operation even after carefully packing the rolls to make em as small as possible.

Do you reckon it might be possible for me to marry the new lock to ours?
G'day Mike,

Thanks for that! Hmmm...I hesitate to make it any wider as I don't want it to stick out too far on the sides.

Yes the new lock should fit into yours too. Which lock fitting is your vote?

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Old 01-12-2012, 12:53 AM   #44
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G'Day Dave, my only comment on which lock to use comes from a travellers point of view.... so of course is biased towards long term travel.

1) Security is only to prevent an opportunistic bastard, the determined thief will get it open no matter what. The solution is a simple but robust system, it really doesn't matter what it is, even a key lock would be OK, but probably to get a quality to stand up to the rigours of travel might add lotsa dollars and hence my initial thought was to use a thing a bit like a water tap security key.

2) The key should be able to be kept on the key ring with the other bike keys... nothing worse than having multiple things to look after and remember when on a trip. I have a terrible memory and tend to put things down and 2 seconds later forget that I even picked them up in the first place, so I have to have a system..... keys to bike and all the other stuff in the right hand zip pocket all the time every time so for me it's important that the key is small and has a hole in it so it can be coupled to the other keys - Jesse Panniers / Zumo Key / Bike Key / Tool Box Key.

Better still have em keyed alike to the bike key, one less thing to worry about.... now there's a thought


Edit, Don't make em wider, just a tad higher.
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:37 PM   #45
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Nice looking progress Dave!

A locking system is preferrable... a WATERPROOF system is priority one IMHO.

I am ready to order...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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