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Old 12-29-2011, 07:48 AM   #16
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I have the Enduralast system. I've had in on the bike since 07...I think. Since my airhead is my winter bike, it runs Dual Star grips and a heated jacket that the stock system couldn't handle. I run about 100w extra in accessories daily. Within the first year the R/R took a dump. The fella at Enduralast wanted me to run some simple test (gotta know how to test diodes) and he sent me a replacement within a week: good service. It's been very reliable since.

I also run a stock Bosch system on my Guzzi. I never run any extras and it keeps an AGM battery well charged. IMHO, everyone says Rick has great service. My point is pick the system that fits your needs. I think they're all good, but these bikes are getting old and need attention to stay reliable: the connections have to be clean, good grounds and wiring in good shape. As long as everything is in good shape and not overloaded, they'll all keep your battery charged.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:10 AM   #17
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Electrex in the UK make a high quality item

http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/cgi-b...500#aSTK_2d500
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:24 AM   #18
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Great.

Now I will be polishing the motor for the rest of our lives.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:43 PM   #19
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Crap!

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I think one issue with the Omega is that if the rotor blows, you cant just swap in a stock rotor. I mean it will fit, but it wont charge. It will keep the front seal from leaking to have a rotor on there though.

also, I will corroborate everything Ignatz mentions. I have an Omega system on mine, and Rick is only a phone call (and some USPS) away. His system works really well when its maintained like the stick system should be. Watch out for dirty connections.
Well, you've thrown a monkey wrench in an otherwise perfect plan, Stage. Thanks a LOT!

I guess the choice is less clear-cut in an emergency failure situation now, except you could still replace a faulty VR or diode board in a pinch with the Omega. I've already got the ME 14.2 VR, and Rick's diode board in the kit is supposed to *never* fail, so... that would leave the stator or brushes as possible weak points of the Omega. With the Enduralast it sounds like the only real possible weak link is the rectifier.

I suppose the final decision lies in how much juice you need and at what RPM, then you dance with the one you paid for.

I think I'm still a bit partial to the Omega...
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:53 PM   #20
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Electrex in the UK make a high quality item

http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/cgi-b...500#aSTK_2d500
Looks like an Enduralast to me...
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:40 AM   #21
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Great.

Now I will be polishing the motor for the rest of our lives.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:09 AM   #22
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My 2c:

Every car manufacturer uses the energized rotor alternator. This is the industry standard. Early 1960's Japanese bikes used and currently Ducati uses a magnet spinning in a stator alternator. Enduralast is a retrofitted Ducati system.

Rotors fail. Carry a spare. Ever tired to get an Enduralast Rectifier/Regulator whilst broken down in Podunk?

The Omega/Emerald Isle system is simply what the Bosch system should have evolved into by the /7 models. Nothing mysterious, just a slightly larger rotor, slightly different windings.

Why is charging at 1500 rpm important? How often to you ride at that RPM? Or need extensive charging at idle?

I have 150K miles on the stock Bosch system and 30K on the Omega without failure.

FWIW.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:07 AM   #23
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Honestly I need charging down that low. But I'm just one guy
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:18 AM   #24
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My 2c:

Every car manufacturer uses the energized rotor alternator. This is the industry standard. Early 1960's Japanese bikes used and currently Ducati uses a magnet spinning in a stator alternator. Enduralast is a retrofitted Ducati system.

Rotors fail. Carry a spare. Ever tired to get an Enduralast Rectifier/Regulator whilst broken down in Podunk?

The Omega/Emerald Isle system is simply what the Bosch system should have evolved into by the /7 models. Nothing mysterious, just a slightly larger rotor, slightly different windings.

Why is charging at 1500 rpm important? How often to you ride at that RPM? Or need extensive charging at idle?

I have 150K miles on the stock Bosch system and 30K on the Omega without failure.

FWIW.

Not everbody wants to carry a lump of steel and wire with them every trip. And, if you have a 400w Omega system the rotor is NLA.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:21 AM   #25
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A spare rotor is usually only a day or two away from almost anywhere, so you can get by, and possibly enjoy the scenery for an extra day. THere are ways around not charging.
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Old 12-30-2011, 04:45 PM   #26
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EME...It charges when you idle, love it.



I modified mine a little. Yes, aftermarket ignitions can work with it. Now EME has there own version of a crank mounted ignition.
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:56 PM   #27
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EME...It charges when you idle, love it.



I modified mine a little. Yes, aftermarket ignitions can work with it. Now EME has there own version of a crank mounted ignition.
Aha!

An Omega electronic ignition!

I've been running one of those for a couple years now and I really like it but unfortunately, they're no longer being manufactured.

I'd sure like to have a spare, so if you run across one for sale let me know, cause if I had an extra, the original one would last forever!
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:49 PM   #28
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Enduralast

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installed in 2006
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no problems so far
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Old 12-31-2011, 01:21 AM   #29
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You forgot one!

As well as the Enduralast, Omega, Electrex, you also have Silent Hektik:

Rough translation via Google:

http://bit.ly/uasKrj

Ignition to suit:

http://bit.ly/spVwbl

(Note: Monoblock is for a kickstarter system, Powerblock is for non-kicker bikes.)

I am looking at one of these ignitions/Alternators myself; or the Enduralast/Eduraspark combination.

Cheers

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Old 12-31-2011, 08:42 AM   #30
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