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Old 01-04-2012, 11:00 AM   #16
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Hey it's a partnership with Toyota. Maybe it will get the 22RE.
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:33 AM   #17
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A Genisis and and Mitsubishi Evo have the same engine???

what???
Maybe not. Apparently my source is wrong. Looks like they both came from the same engine family, but aren't similar enough for it to matter in any significant way.
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Old 01-04-2012, 12:40 PM   #18
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I think that would kind of miss the point of the car. If I wanted turbo RWD, I'd just get a Hyundai Genesis. Same motor as an Evo. I think it even has the same turbo.

I swore I'd buy one if they could do it for under $20k (and why not? Just take the front drive shafts off an Impreza and call it a day. ), but it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

As such, they've now got some tough competition- Mustang, Miata, Camaro, Genesis, RX-8 and getting dangerously close to 370Z territory as well.
BRZ is about the same size as a Miata.

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Old 01-04-2012, 01:22 PM   #19
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I had no idea it was that small... should be fun!
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:50 PM   #20
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heres to hoping they turbo that bitch
The plan is supposedly a mid cycle (and a long cycle at that - something like 7+ years?) Power bump, but no turbo.
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Old 01-04-2012, 03:23 PM   #21
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That car would have been a huge success and sold well, in 1990 I think

Now days 200hp seems awfully weak for something with sporting pretensions. I know it is fairly light and is supposed to handle well, but even the defunct S2000 has more go. A 300+ hp STI version could do well in that weight category.
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Old 01-04-2012, 04:34 PM   #22
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Maybe not. Apparently my source is wrong. Looks like they both came from the same engine family, but aren't similar enough for it to matter in any significant way.
Hyundai did license the Mitsu four-cyl engine design at some point.....I recall it being mentioned in those first road tests of the Genesis 2.0T.
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Old 01-04-2012, 04:36 PM   #23
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That car would have been a huge success and sold well, in 1990 I think
it would have been a $35k car in 1990 (in 1990 dollars)- it would have been competitive with a porsche 911.

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Now days 200hp seems awfully weak for something with sporting pretensions. I know it is fairly light and is supposed to handle well, but even the defunct S2000 has more go.
and was heavier and more expensive. are you forgetting this this is expected to come in at less than $25k?
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:22 PM   #24
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The Genesis mill and the Evo motor do share some DNA. Pasted from Modified Mag

As you may know, the 2-liter turbo engine in the Genesis Coupe is a GEMA World Engine collaboratively designed by Mitsubishi, Chrysler and Hyundai for use in their respective vehicle lineups. So the 2.0T Genesis Coupe's basic engine design is very closely related to the EVO X's engine, though there are significant differences-including cylinder head and manifold designs.
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:27 AM   #25
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Love the BRZ/GT86. The return of the affordable RWD coupe.

Lower CoG than a Cayman, shorter overall length, but longer wheelbase. The handling of that will be phenomenal and 200hp are more than enough.
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Old 04-27-2012, 09:02 AM   #26
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Just saw this in Popular Mechanics going up against the new Miata. I'm in the market for a high-mpg AWD car and the Impreza is . It caught my eye but bummer about the RWD. Oh well. Not sure my 6-6 frame would have been happy in it anyway.

When will we ever get a decent diesel AWD manual wagon like the euro A3? About the time hell freezes over.
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Old 04-27-2012, 09:05 AM   #27
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the genesis mill and the evo motor do share some dna. Pasted from modified mag

as you may know, the 2-liter turbo engine in the genesis coupe is a gema world engine collaboratively designed by mitsubishi, chrysler and hyundai for use in their respective vehicle lineups. So the 2.0t genesis coupe's basic engine design is very closely related to the evo x's engine, though there are significant differences-including cylinder head and manifold designs.
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Old 04-27-2012, 09:39 AM   #29
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That car would have been a huge success and sold well, in 1990 I think

Now days 200hp seems awfully weak for something with sporting pretensions. I know it is fairly light and is supposed to handle well, but even the defunct S2000 has more go. A 300+ hp STI version could do well in that weight category.
200hp seems a bit low considering the HP wars are raging on in the +350-450HP range.. But the major car mags all seem to be showing the BRZ some respect because it is a car they all frequently say is lacking in the market: an affordable ($25k), reliable, rear-wheel drive coupe that isn't just built too look like it can handle..

One of the main remarks the mags seem to make is that it doesn't feel particularly underpowered..

I am currious to see how it sells...
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This thread needs some pics

Ditch the wing and that is pretty hot!





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