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Old 02-16-2012, 06:06 PM   #946
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Here is the Darwin/Hunter Mtn/Lippincott loop I am proposing for Friday. I'm planning on sticking to the fire roads at a relaxed pace, but we would need to keep moving to ensure that we could complete the loop in time to get back for dinner. Anyone who feels up to it is welcome to join. Posted on the ride sign up site: http://dvrides.advexplorers.com/



I've wanted to do this for the past couple of years, and am hoping that the snow on South Pass/Hunter Mtn will not be a problem this time around. Browneye will be leading the charge by checking the route out on Thursday. If they cut a path through the snow for us, we can follow it!
What's the mileage on that? Definitely interested.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:58 PM   #947
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:59 PM   #948
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This is driving me crazy! All new stuff to ride, and it's going to be a blast. Can't wait for wheels to turn west! Don't know about that orange IPhone color though......Husky Red is more to my taste.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:49 PM   #949
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What's the mileage on that? Definitely interested.
Without the Darwin loop, it's about 125 miles. Darwin adds maybe another 15 or so...
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:17 PM   #950
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White Top Mountain, Hunter, Hidden Valley, Racetrack

Just found this looking for WHITE TOP MOUNTAIN. Since it's in the same general area. Low and behold, Johngil has covered all the best spots in the valley...
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635453


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Is there anything else at the end of the roads up there on White Top?

I've been looking over Harrison's map. Steel Pass is way the hell out there.

I'm game for Warm Springs Thursday depending on time and weather. Arriving Wed for 3 full days of riding.
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:29 AM   #951
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yeah chris, let's go to the hot springs on thursday.

a short and sweet route.
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Old 02-17-2012, 08:59 AM   #952
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yeah chris, let's go to the hot springs on thursday.

a short and sweet route.


Remember you're working with NooBs here Joel...

It is a sweet ride to the Hot Springs, but it's NOT short... Almost 135 miles round trip so a lot of standard bikes can't make it on 3 gallons of gas. Fuel management is required...

For the NooBs asking about Lizard Lee providing fuel... I've only talked to him a couple of times. I know he's willing to help people in NEED, but I'm not sure I think it's a good idea to expect to buy gas from him. Especially at the $6 price someone mentioned. (It was almost $6 a gallon for premium in Panamint Springs last time we were there) He has to haul it out there, or it was donated by someone trucking up to partake of his hospitality.

I know I have provided supplies for his use or he can give them to people in need, with them compensating him appropriately. I would give him a $20 for a gallon of gas and not expect change. It's not his problem if I didn't know how far my bike can go on it's fuel. I've seen him fixing car tires and calling for a dirt tow for a broken down Jeep... Even though I've heard the Park Service gives him the Satellite phone service, I'd still lay at least a $20 on him for the call...

I don't think he lives there for the social aspects of "helping" passers by, but he does need to live so I think we should respect that.

Does anyone have any more experience "talking" with him?

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Old 02-17-2012, 09:13 AM   #953
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If you want in on this, PP $13 to kingsofthewestrally@gmail.com

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Remember you're working with NooBs here Joel...

It is a sweet ride to the Hot Springs, but it's NOT short... Almost 135 miles round trip so a lot of standard bikes can't make it on 3 gallons of gas. Fuel management is required...


agree, just like jim said. bud, i thought you will be at the springs on thursday, about 1PM is great....

death valley is a huge place, you could put some european countries inside death valley....

fuel is our limitation. if you have a range of 150 (on dirt) which is roughly equivalent to 180 in pavement, you should be good in MANY instances. nice to have a riding buddy with a 6 gal tank....

anyway, be prepared to have the fuel range (and water) if anyone desires to go to distant places.


it's been a long time we have seen two 5 gal waiting for us at the springs....

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Old 02-17-2012, 10:10 AM   #955
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Just a thought,

If you have some bring with you either a one of those Coolant jugs or a couple 2 liter soda bottles. They work great for transporting fuel temporarily and then can be compacted when empty.

Just a quick and cheap way to carry extra fuel without buying a dedicated fuel tank like rotopax etc.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:15 AM   #956
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Just a thought,

If you have some bring with you either a one of those Coolant jugs or a couple 2 liter soda bottles. They work great for transporting fuel temporarily and then can be compacted when empty.

Just a quick and cheap way to carry extra fuel without buying a dedicated fuel tank like rotopax etc.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:19 AM   #957
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Just a thought,

If you have some bring with you either a one of those Coolant jugs or a couple 2 liter soda bottles. They work great for transporting fuel temporarily and then can be compacted when empty.

Just a quick and cheap way to carry extra fuel without buying a dedicated fuel tank like rotopax etc.
+1

I also think anyone with a questionable range should at least have a couple of MSR one liter fuel bottles. They can go in a backpack pretty easy, are super light when empty, and can be dumped in as soon as there's room. For most bikes that's another 20 miles or so. And you don't have to worry about them crushing, leaking, or spilling fuel on your gear or yourself.

For anyone gearing up for additional fuel, the Kolpin pax are 1.5gl vs either the smaller 1gl Rotopax, or larger 2gl Rotopax. I have a Kolpin, gives me almost 5gl on the Husky without buying a $700 fuel tank. Just FYI.

BTW, I have a couple of fuel bottles to loan out if anyone needs them. They're not cheap, like $20 each.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:41 AM   #958
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What's the mileage on that? Definitely interested.
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Without the Darwin loop, it's about 125 miles. Darwin adds maybe another 15 or so...
That sounds right. Google shows it as 120, including Darwin, but I would want to make sure that any bikes have at least a 150 mile range.

Depending on who shows, it might be best to skip Darwin to save time and fuel. I added it, because you get some fun, early dirt to make up for any slogging through slush over the pass (again, it depends on how much snow falls between now and then).

My XR650L has a 4.7 gallon tank, and I should be good for up to 200 miles on the street with a conservative throttle. When riding on trails or through difficult conditions, I hope I can get 150 out of it...

The good news is, if you run out of fuel at the top of 190 (just past Saline Valley) you can pretty much coast back down to PSR for those last 10+ miles.
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:15 AM   #959
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These are great too and dont cost too much, buy my option was more of a disposable and free to the user kind of idea. That is what I was shooting for.

Myself, I am going to be using a fuel bladder from Australia for this trip. Same kind they use for the inside of fuel tanks on planes etc.

Should be here any day now.
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:42 AM   #960
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Agreed and in stock at most REI locations in a couple of different sizes.

Perfect for day use. These do allow fumes to escape so definitely not for long-term fuel storage. I put mine in a ziploc freezer bag after use. This keeps the smell out of my vehicle and garage.
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