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Old 02-10-2012, 11:03 PM   #91
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Just picked up a new conti front for my SM610....time to go wear it out!!
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:24 PM   #92
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Looks like SM is trying to make a comeback , I sure hope so.



http://www.smrcoalition.org/Home_Page.html




http://vimeo.com/41339852#


http://vimeo.com/40997384#

http://vimeo.com/41131365#

http://vimeo.com/42661613#at=0

http://vimeo.com/44371405#at=0
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:35 AM   #93
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:53 AM   #94
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I'm having a hard time getting into the supermoto thing? I got a drz400s and put 17s on it because I rarely go off road anymore thinking it would make a fun local bike. The fact is, it just doesn't have enough power to be much fun and isn't comfortable much over 55mph for any time/distance no matter how twisty the road is. This plus no wind protection or real storage options make it pretty unpractical and unfun. Still I'm not giving up yet and plan to hot rod the motor for some power but it just will never be a do-all bike. It really does need to be a second or third bike and that's what keeps sales low imho.
It doesn't sound like your bike just needs more power. It sounds like it needs longer legs. Try a bike with better gearing spread. A hotrodded DR650 has longer legs and plenty of options available for comfort and storage.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:00 AM   #95
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Their popularity seems to have faded a bit. I was really into them about 10 years ago. I like my 18r and 21 inch wheels just fine for my old XT. I can get Avon distansias and call it my supermoto. Or IRC GP 110's and it's my dual sport which I like a bit better than supermoto. Big singles vibrate too so long road trips aren't any fun.
You're not riding the right big singles. DRs, 690s, and TEs are pretty smooth unless something is wrong.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:02 AM   #96
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Mother of God... I can't even identify some of the bikes pictured in this thread, and I really didn't need to see some other bike that I now want...

Pretty much what I was thinking too.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:39 AM   #97
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Old 07-21-2012, 05:30 PM   #98
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OK. After seeing the video I get it. SuperMoTARD just means dirt bike with street tires and an immature rider. I havent missed anything.










































yeah, yeah.....same to you!



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Old 07-22-2012, 03:27 AM   #99
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Old 07-22-2012, 07:34 AM   #100
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The DR Z400SM is still in production, it just doesn't come to the US...if I'm not mistaken it's available in Canada.

Honda has four street legal Supermoto models to choose from in Italy....

http://www.hmmoto.it/ita/scheda.asp?idFam=3&idProd=243

The Dual Sport segment has never been a large market in the US and the Supermoto market is an even smaller portion of that market. The manufacturers tend to put bikes in regions where the sell best, or least better. Back in the mid eighties Honda's Dual Sport lineup had five or six models to choose from. At that time sport bikes were just getting popular and the demand for those increased and demand for dual sports dropped off. For a long time it was just the XR650L, then the CRF230L was added and they just added the CRF 250L. Hopefully this growing lineup will continue to grow, and hopefully new SM models will follow.

As far as practical goes I built my DR 650SM purely for fun in the twisties. I took what is (and will always be) a heavy big bore single that is not particular nimble off road...the tighter things get the worse it becomes. It does do everything satisfactorily and nothing exceptionally. Converting it into Supermoto form gave me a light weight bike (by street standards) that handles pretty damn good and sticks to the road like a magnet...the tighter things get the better it is. Converting to SM made a mediocre bike much more fun and focused. I put a small roll bag on the back so I can ride with empty pockets and have a place to store stuff when I'm parked...and I have some storage space without hanging a set of samsonite matched luggage off the sides. I hope to see more street legal Supermoto models in the future because this bike is the most fun I've ever had on the street.




I believe this is a picture of the 2012 Canadian DR Z400SM




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Old 07-25-2012, 11:15 PM   #101
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just want to re-state that I love my 610SM.



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Old 07-27-2012, 09:11 PM   #102
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I was aiming for a chuckle, but seem to have hit a nerve.

Let's see:
300lbs with gear
~150lbs with gear (wife)
~15-20 lbs extra gas
~50-60lbs of luggage

so about 500-550 lbs

There are very few bikes that can handle that duty continuously. The Goldwing is one.

I too can only afford 1 bike and it must perform multiple duties. However, it performs 1 job far more than others. That is what drove me to purchase my particular machine. It can still handle the others, but I woudln't use it that way full time. I am sure that you and the wife would not be packing up for a trip every day, but maybe once or twice a season. I would suggest that as a guide.

I do not own a supermoto, but I think it is a great bike for commuting and occasional 2 up touring. Most of all, some back road scratching.
Very few bikes have a load carrying rating of 500+ lbs. Mostly the huge cruisers/tourers, such as the Goldwings, BMW K/R bikes, and Victories.
My 800cc Suzuki C50 cruiser doesnt have a rating that can carry that much weight; neither does my BMW G650GS plus he stated he wanted a ranger of 300 miles between tanks, if I kept the g650gs between 40-45mph for the whole tank, and sipped it almost dry, I might be able to coast into a gas station at 300miles, and the g650gs has one of the highest mph fuel ratings of any dual sport on the market- and the SMs get less fuel milage; even less bikes which can carry that much fuel and have a load rating of 500+ load rating. The KLR has a 6 gallon tank so should be able to go 300 miles between tanks without that load, but with that load-very doubtful. The BMW R1200GS is supposedly rated off/on road (but it weighs almost 600 pounds-not too many people really want to heave that beast off road), can carry the payload of over 500lbs, and may be able to go 300 miles between fill-ups.
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:31 AM   #103
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I put 17 inch wheels on my DR650 and haven’t looked back. I am surprised that SM hasn’t taken off more in the US. The bikes are fun to ride, there’s a lot of amateur racing around, I commute 30 miles a day on mine 9 months a year and they are cheap to insure and maintain. Plus you risk less in repairs if crashed.
I guess we’ll (the SM faithful) just have to keep building our own for now.

Standard U.S. wretched excess... a 400 isn't enough, nor is a 650, it has to be a 1000. I'm amazed there isn't some 1000cc motocrosser built for the U.S. mentality, but I guess the off road market learned from the Yamaha SC500 and Suzuki TM400 (although a well set up TM with a TS lighting system would make an entertaining supermoto that could easily power wheelie up to about 90 mph!).

Then, of course, there was the AMA "promotion" (or should we say destruction) of Supermoto in the early 2000s. No idea how they could screw up such a spectator friendly sport that could be put on in a parking lot, at a go kart track, or inside some paved automobile short track - especially the ones with a figure 8 built in them. Talk about hosing up a good thing... of course they did it a decade earlier with the Stroh's Mile Grand National sponsorship too.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:01 AM   #104
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