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Old 08-13-2012, 06:03 PM   #106
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:17 AM   #107
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they are probably the most practical city motorcycles made.
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+2 Cutting through parking lots, potholes, no worries while parked. All around great getaround scooters and fun.

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Single cylinder not having to run at 5,000rpms in 35-45mph traffic just so it's in the band...

Then the streetbike can never really USE all it's power...

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(a) Except as provided in subsection (c), it is unlawful for any person to operate or drive a motor vehicle upon any highway or public road of this state in excess of sixty-five miles per hour (65 mph).
High insurance/squid fatality rate.

A SM is not 450lbs.

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If only a few stunter shows (Jason Britten) would show them they'd taker off quicker than a Kawisaki Ninja without a fairing (ER650n)... (hint)

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Old 11-09-2012, 01:01 PM   #108
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Well sure just ignore the best of the bunch the 690 SMC to make your point. The fact is, the DRZ, and WR make crappy SM's mainly because they have such shitty power to weight ratio's. As for Husky, if they truly have discontinued the 630 SM, it's probably because something else close to it is in the works and we'll see it when they finalize their street bike lineup.

Something like this maybe:

That is pretty nice.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:03 PM   #109
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The gig is up!THe companies found out and realized how much fun you guys were having and said WE cant allow ll these people to have all that FUN ! FUN no WAY in hell was that gonna fly anymore! So they cut production ok now back to WORK nothing to see here.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:56 PM   #110
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they are probably the most practical city motorcycles made.
Practical? For what they cost? A basic cheap bike of any sort that gets good mileage is a city bike. Blander the better so they dont get stolen.
Hard to go fast and slide corners in a city so a Super-Moto is a poseur city bike for the most part.
I think most people buy su-mo bikes for the look anyway.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:08 PM   #111
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If only Husky had given us the STR (the concept bike pictured above in Post 108) before BMW purchased them! Instead, we get the TR650 Strada. Even the SMS-630 was a much better option, alas also now gone from the USA.

[Edit: when I saved a copy of the photo, I noticed that its title is transposed. It is STR, not SRT.]
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:15 PM   #112
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:16 PM   #113
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Practical? For what they cost?
If you're talking about a real race supermoto, sure. But a low-tech dirtbike/dualsport with 17" wheels can be had for a VERY reasonable price.

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A basic cheap bike of any sort that gets good mileage is a city bike.
I have $6K total in both of my bikes, one bought new and the other with <4K miles. 75mpg for the CRF230, 50mpg for the DR650.

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Ugly and drop-tolerant -- check.

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Hard to go fast and slide corners in a city
Not hard in my city, unless by "fast" you mean >85mph. Light bikes, wide sticky tires, and 17" front wheels make for agile cornering at city speeds -- better than the dirtbikes and dualsports that are their ancestors.

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so a Super-Moto is a poseur city bike for the most part.
Low-tech sumos are light, nimble, easy to maintain, look OK when filthy, are ridiculously cheap to insure, and provide great visibility in traffic (upright riding position, tall-ish seat). At least once or twice a month I go over curbs and train tracks in gravel rail beds to take a shortcut -- try that on your street bike.

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I think most people buy su-mo bikes for the look anyway.
Personally, I think supermotos look pretty crappy (especially mine). But for my urban riding (lots of low-speed turns, no luggage, park inside my building at work after pushing the bike up a ramp) they are a practical year-round commuter.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:11 PM   #114
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Supermotos are the perfection of all two-wheeled beauty.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:59 PM   #115
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I agree sm's have their niche, unfortunately I think its too small for manufacturers to make a profit at. You can pick up a ds and leave it dual-sported, and have the ability to do what a sm can do+ hit the dirt. A sm has to try and compete with true street bikes, which they can only do for city commuting.....once you try and take a real road ride or a long freeway run, you find out how uncomfortable and underpowered a single cylinder no wind protection sm really is for serious street duty.
They're cool bikes for some, or if you can own multiple machines, but it seems like for the majority they aren't working well enough to buy?
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:43 PM   #116
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This bike has it's Niche for sure. I got 17"s on order, gonna have (2) sets of complete wheels, best of both worlds.
although not the world beater SM, I think XR650L's have a very decent platform to work with

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Old 11-13-2012, 10:19 AM   #117
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I agree sm's have their niche, unfortunately I think its too small for manufacturers to make a profit at. You can pick up a ds and leave it dual-sported, and have the ability to do what a sm can do+ hit the dirt. A sm has to try and compete with true street bikes, which they can only do for city commuting.....once you try and take a real road ride or a long freeway run, you find out how uncomfortable and underpowered a single cylinder no wind protection sm really is for serious street duty.
They're cool bikes for some, or if you can own multiple machines, but it seems like for the majority they aren't working well enough to buy?
I ride my girlfriends SM630 at 80 mph with ease and the wind blast with clean air is not too bad with a good helmet (Shoei Quest), as good as any other non-fared bike. Plus when you need the binders or side of the road to avoid an ER visit from a texting cager.. there is nothing better than a SM.

Found it so fun to ride that I picked up a pair of 17" SM wheels for my TE630 to swap out the with real dirt tires.

As for long freeway ride.. 250 miles+.. agree.. I'd take my FJR and nock off 1000+ miles a day with ease but now we are talking something other than a "city bike".

Not really sure what experiences you have had to reach your conclusions but they differ from mine??
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:54 PM   #118
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A Supermoto is better on dry dirt than skinny knobbies are on pavement! I run 19s on my XR650R, which is the best of both worlds!
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:14 PM   #119
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While SMs make crappy street or dirt bikes, I seldom ride mine. But they are CRAZY FUN and great way to go to jail and/or lose you license! I laugh out loud when I do ride it and it's never leaving the stable!
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:48 PM   #120
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Duke 390 confirmed

While not a SM (lacks the suspension travel and the dirt-bike frame geometry, the Duke 390 confirmed today should be an enjoyable, nimble street thumper. Specs say 44 hp and 324 lbs. wet with full tank. Suspension travel of 5.9" and 6.7" ground clearance sounds OK for the urban environment.
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