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Old 11-13-2012, 07:03 PM   #121
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:47 AM   #122
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Marketing analysts run the show, not the consumer. Motorcycling is being turned into cults of fadists.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:53 AM   #123
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:38 AM   #124
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I'm thinking about picking up a street legal sumo. I lust after the Aprilia SXV 550 but, in a risk benefit analysis they are WAY to frageelay (that's Italian I think). What bike comes in second on stock horsepower?
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:02 AM   #125
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If you're talking about a real race supermoto, sure. But a low-tech dirtbike/dualsport with 17" wheels can be had for a VERY reasonable price.

I have $6K total in both of my bikes, one bought new and the other with <4K miles. 75mpg for the CRF230, 50mpg for the DR650.

Ugly and drop-tolerant -- check.

Not hard in my city, unless by "fast" you mean >85mph. Light bikes, wide sticky tires, and 17" front wheels make for agile cornering at city speeds -- better than the dirtbikes and dualsports that are their ancestors.

Low-tech sumos are light, nimble, easy to maintain, look OK when filthy, are ridiculously cheap to insure, and provide great visibility in traffic (upright riding position, tall-ish seat). At least once or twice a month I go over curbs and train tracks in gravel rail beds to take a shortcut -- try that on your street bike.

Personally, I think supermotos look pretty crappy (especially mine). But for my urban riding (lots of low-speed turns, no luggage, park inside my building at work after pushing the bike up a ramp) they are a practical year-round commuter.
I have the 19"/17" combo wheels on my DR650,fat Excel rims,an inmate here gave me a great deal on them. I have ended up leaving them on the bike all the time mostly,it just works good that way.
Honestly on a tight bumpy coastal backroad it would be hard to go faster/safer then that bike will go.
It just rips and takes no notice of bumps or potholes.

I dont go fast anywhere near civilization as those cars have sharp points on them and arent any fun to play with.
Riding in the gravel by train tracks around here is begging for a flat tire,the amount of metallic junk around train tracks is not good.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:05 AM   #126
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I'm thinking about picking up a street legal sumo. I lust after the Aprilia SXV 550 but, in a risk benefit analysis they are WAY to frageelay (that's Italian I think). What bike comes in second on stock horsepower?
Why take second place? Find a lightly used KTM 950 SM.
A guy has a fully set up 690SM on craigslist here in Chico,I try not to look at that add much. Its pretty.........
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:19 PM   #127
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Marketing analysts run the show, not the consumer. Motorcycling is being turned into cults of fadists.
This is true, the only problem with this is they are only able to analyze the sales numbers of the bikes they sell and make available for the people to buy. This of course doesn't include the number of bikes people convert or modify for their uses because the manufacturers don't sell what they want.

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Old 11-14-2012, 02:15 PM   #128
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There's one in my garage. I am thinking of selling or trading my SMR 990. I love the motorcycle ..but I don't ride it enough. It makes fun of me each time I walk by it. I reckon the bike knows I don't have the balls to exercise it the way it needs. I wish I could push a button and turn it into a S.E.or 690 enduro. I love the motorcycle...but don't need the motorcycle. I guess I'm getting old. I have composed a "for sale" add a couple times only to chicken out before posting. What I need is a shrink.!
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:26 PM   #129
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There's one in my garage. I am thinking of selling or trading my SMR 990. I love the motorcycle ..but I don't ride it enough. It makes fun of me each time I walk by it. I reckon the bike knows I don't have the balls to exercise it the way it needs. I wish I could push a button and turn it into a S.E.or 690 enduro. I love the motorcycle...but don't need the motorcycle. I guess I'm getting old. I have composed a "for sale" add a couple times only to chicken out before posting. What I need is a shrink.!

Just pm me with your problems with all the details ?
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:47 PM   #130
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I have the 19"/17" combo wheels on my DR650,fat Excel rims,an inmate here gave me a great deal on them. I have ended up leaving them on the bike all the time mostly,it just works good that way.
Honestly on a tight bumpy coastal backroad it would be hard to go faster/safer then that bike will go.
It just rips and takes no notice of bumps or potholes.

I dont go fast anywhere near civilization as those cars have sharp points on them and arent any fun to play with.
Riding in the gravel by train tracks around here is begging for a flat tire,the amount of metallic junk around train tracks is not
good.

i was looking in to a old trail bike like a 350 or 450 then getting 17/17 for it just fit hand gaurds, bashplate. take of the flashers and then just have fun on it. as it be cheap to run and if it has a rack i just carry a lock to make sure its where i left it.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:00 PM   #131
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I hate to admit it, but the lack of factory SM's may be a blessing in disguise...

Why, you ask? Because, like everything else, the factory SM bikes were suffering from scope creep. Manufacturers began making giant SM's, such as my Aprilia Dorsoduro (750 being discontinued, 1200 only now), the big KTM SM, and the Ducati Hypermotard. These bikes are all fun, but true supermotos have been eclipsed by the marketing for these "mega-motos".

For the true SM experience, you are better off with a true dual sport dirt bike with street tires. Light, agile, and raw; less is more. As long as they make 250-400 street legal thumpers, the supermoto is within the reach of the average buyer.

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Old 11-14-2012, 09:22 PM   #132
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:36 PM   #133
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:16 PM   #134
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i use to have a road legal pitbike that was a crf50 size motard and it was great fun. i would love to get a crf70 size one on 12/12 with a 160cc motor would be so much fun on back road ect.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:34 PM   #135
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i use to have a road legal pitbike that was a crf50 size motard and it was great fun. i would love to get a crf70 size one on 12/12 with a 160cc motor would be so much fun on back road ect.
Why take a CRF 70 to a 160 and mount 12's ? The CRF 150R is a more popular choice and they rip!




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