ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Orange Crush > Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-16-2015, 05:22 PM   #1
m0t0-ryder OP
squirtin dirt
 
m0t0-ryder's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: Bay Area, California
Oddometer: 295
Oil light on occasionally but very dim

2006 950 Adventure S with a little over 30,000 miles.

So recently ( about 100 miles ago) my oil light was seen to stay on after the bike is running. Very dim, probably less than 1/4 of the illumination of when the key is on but bike not running.

It usually goes out once I am at cruising speed (3500 - 4500 rpm) but will come on again once stopped and idling. (???)

I changed the oil (black with no water showing) as well as filter and cleaned the screen.

I saw the other thread about oil light staying on being related to the check valve. (I don't have noisy cams though)
Could this be the cause of my issue?

Could it be the oil reservoir filter screen?

Any other thoughts on why my oil light might be staying on albeit much dimmer than full on?
__________________
Beaten paths are for beaten men.
m0t0-ryder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2015, 09:33 PM   #2
David37
Gnarly Adventurer
 
David37's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2008
Location: SLO County
Oddometer: 401
I would check the wire connection to your oil sending unit between the cylinders.
David37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2015, 03:11 AM   #3
guglemonster
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Italy
Oddometer: 299
nay
water in oil, filter swallen, ope the clutch cover and you will find some mayonese, no oil pressuer, risking the engine

it's time to change the water gasket :), FAST

sorry

__________________
Fuel cap filter
guglemonster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2015, 07:40 AM   #4
m0t0-ryder OP
squirtin dirt
 
m0t0-ryder's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: Bay Area, California
Oddometer: 295
Quote:
Originally Posted by guglemonster View Post
nay
water in oil, filter swallen, ope the clutch cover and you will find some mayonese, no oil pressuer, risking the engine

it's time to change the water gasket :), FAST

sorry

Thanks for the replies and suggestions.

There was no water in the oil. The filter was not swollen. I just changed them both a couple days ago.
The light does not come on bright, nor stay on. It just comes on dimly.
The water gasket was replaced at about 22,000 miles.
All other "common" mods have been done as well.

I will (do) keep an eye on the oil (for water intrusion) and will also check the oil sensor connector.
__________________
Beaten paths are for beaten men.
m0t0-ryder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2015, 09:21 AM   #5
guglemonster
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Italy
Oddometer: 299
ooooooook ,


fact that it was changed almost 40.000 km ago it's not a shor shot :)

when the bike does the initial check at starting, the light is bright or same dim light?

__________________
Fuel cap filter
guglemonster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2015, 11:49 AM   #6
m0t0-ryder OP
squirtin dirt
 
m0t0-ryder's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: Bay Area, California
Oddometer: 295
Quote:
Originally Posted by guglemonster View Post
ooooooook ,


fact that it was changed almost 40.000 km ago it's not a shor shot :)

when the bike does the initial check at starting, the light is bright or same dim light?

I hear ya on the water pump longevity (or lack thereof).
Will be ordering the CJ Designs complete kit today for next service schedule.

Light is on full bright when initially turned on and started.
Goes to quite dim as bike is running. Then goes out once riding (3500 - 4500 RPM) at operating temp.
Also see no reduction in coolant level.
Seem to have good oil pressure since the light does go out.
Also don't notice any abnormal level of the oil in the reservoir at end-of-ride.

Here's a picture of the (removed) oil filter...
Name:  sm crp.jpg
Views: 184
Size:  110.8 KB

Still haven't got to the oil sensor wire to check it yet.
May also do the oil pressure gauge on next service. For peace of mind.
__________________
Beaten paths are for beaten men.
m0t0-ryder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2015, 12:05 PM   #7
guglemonster
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Italy
Oddometer: 299
did you check the clutch carter??



it's where you will find the best symptoms :)

hope it's just s glintch :)

__________________
Fuel cap filter
guglemonster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2015, 12:30 PM   #8
ICERIDER
Adventure Rider
 
ICERIDER's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Location: Stanley Falkland Islands
Oddometer: 493
Check as advised, but it's probably the oil pressure switch itself. It should be either off or on. If it's half and half I'd say the switch is u/s. That's as long as there is no milk shake/cam chain clatter.
__________________
950 SE
WR250R
950 ADV
ICERIDER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2015, 01:03 PM   #9
Boatman
Upward and onward!!
 
Boatman's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Petersburg, NY and Mill Spring, NC
Oddometer: 10,391
Quote:
Originally Posted by ICERIDER View Post
Check as advised, but it's probably the oil pressure switch itself. It should be either off or on. If it's half and half I'd say the switch is u/s. That's as long as there is no milk shake/cam chain clatter.




Might as well buy the switch ahead of time and just change it.
__________________
08 KTM 950 SE, 09 KTM 950 SE, 04 KTM 950 ADV, 10 Husaberg FE390, 66 Kawasaki B8S Super 150

Hi/low beam conversions for: Trail Tech, Baja Designs
Boatman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2015, 02:56 PM   #10
ICERIDER
Adventure Rider
 
ICERIDER's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Location: Stanley Falkland Islands
Oddometer: 493
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boatman View Post



Might as well buy the switch ahead of time and just change it.
I'm all for that from now on. Just throw a new switch in every time you have access. Only a few bucks. Also catches them before the innards leak.
__________________
950 SE
WR250R
950 ADV
ICERIDER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2015, 11:13 PM   #11
Zuber
Zoob
 
Zuber's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Location: Main Street, Shedd, Oregon
Oddometer: 2,068
Yup, probably need a new switch. Happens. Usually it starts leaking first.
__________________
"Dad, can I get a motorcycle when I grow up?"
"Son, you can't do both"
Zuber is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2015, 06:42 AM   #12
keener
Speed changes you.
 
keener's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Location: Toronto, Canada
Oddometer: 953
Happens to me whenever the oil level is low. It comes on and off at idle and goes away when I rev it.
__________________
04 ADV 950
keener is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2015, 02:14 PM   #13
Bowber
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Location: Kirkby Stephen, Cumbria, UK
Oddometer: 184
Mine did the same, I went through all the usual steps to make sure I had pressure so I assumed it was the switch, and it was. However about 25 miles after it went faulty it also started leaking so I brought my valve check forwards and did the switch at the same time.

Steve
Bowber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2015, 05:54 PM   #14
dlrides
1:1.618
 
dlrides's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Newton NC
Oddometer: 5,473
Early years were known to have issues with the oil pressure bypass valve spring. I think KTM updated the part in 2010. Minimum spring length is 42mm, I think new is +/- 47mm. This has solved many low oil pressure issues in the past. There are some threads/tutorials around here somewhere, might check the "How" section.


Bypass valve Length of spring, unloaded min. 41.5 mm
Spring tension 27 mm at a load of at least 3.5 kg
NOTE: different pistons were installed starting with engine number
2-600-00773. Engines of an earlier make must be converted; see
Technical Information, Chapter 1.

As I didn't take photo's, this is the manuals shot of it. The slot below to the left is where the oil screen goes and the major bearing above is where the clutch would be.
__________________
“Men marry women with the hope they will never change. Women marry men with the hope they will change. Invariably they are both disappointed.”


― Albert Einstein

dlrides screwed with this post 04-19-2015 at 06:05 PM
dlrides is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2015, 08:37 AM   #15
dirtybikefrank
Beast wrestler
 
dirtybikefrank's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Location: Senoia GA
Oddometer: 431
Just went through this myself. Changed the switch (one from a landrover was at the local parts store) put new cam chains in w longer tensioner bolts.

Just got back from a shakedown ride. Lights still on. Fawk.

Black tape over the display fixed it. I could've saved a load and just done that first.
dirtybikefrank is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 07:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2015