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Old 04-21-2005, 05:15 PM   #16
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Wow,

This is a timely thread, my sister just called me and offerend BMWGypsy and I a pair of tickets to to to Italy in October of 2006. Her idea was a family vacation, bring our mom and ent a 4 bedroom house on the coast, the towns that she is looking in are Positano, Amalfi, and Praiano. I don't really think of this as a moto vacation so I am not looking for a bike rental or anything but if anybody knows anything about the area we are looking at I would really appreciate any feedback you could give me.

What is the weather like there that time of year?
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Old 04-22-2005, 12:01 AM   #17
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What is the weather like there that time of year?
The weather in that period should be good (about 18-20°)

a pleasant journey.
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:35 AM   #18
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Updated itinerary, could use some feedback!

Here's the plan that has emerged. I'd prefer to focus on one area, but Mrs. four-up.... nuff said. Those of you in the know, please let me know if it's possible. I'm trying to find a decent BMW hire location in Nice, but not having much luck. Milan seems to be the best option. I would also love to get some specific route information for the various legs, as well as hotel recommendations. I promise I'll return the favor if you make it out to Utah!

Day 1-arrive Nice/Monte-Carlo (Grand Prix)
Day 2-Monte-Carlo to Milan via public transport (train?)
Day 3-Pick up bikes in Milan morning, ride to Pisa
Day 4-Pisa to Rome via the coast?
Day 5-Rome, ride to Naples in the evening
Day 6-Naples (work ), return to Rome in evening
Day 7-Rome, ride towards Florence
Day 8-Arrive Florence, spend 5-6 hours, leave for Venice
Day 9-Arrive Venice, spend the day & evening
Day 10- Depart Venice for Alps, find half-way point to Milan
Day 11- Alps, arrive Milan, dump bikes, scoot to Nice via public transport (train?)
Day 12-Depart Nice
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:48 AM   #19
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Thinking of 2-3 days in Rome, then up to the Dolomites for 3-4 days of motorcycle touring.
Well if you only have a few days, then head up to Arabba or Agordo in the Dolomites. From there, you'll be able to head out on numerous day rides.

Routes? Get a map in advance with a scale of 1:200 000 or better and check out the area between Cortina d'Ampezzo and Bolzano and as far down as Trento. (see the Books & Maps section of my site for map suggestions)

Rentals can be had in Rome.

More info here.
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:51 PM   #20
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Day 1-arrive Nice/Monte-Carlo (Grand Prix)
Day 2-Monte-Carlo to Milan via public transport (train?)
Day 3-Pick up bikes in Milan morning, ride to Pisa
Day 4-Pisa to Rome via the coast?
Day 5-Rome, ride to Naples in the evening
Day 6-Naples (work ), return to Rome in evening
Day 7-Rome, ride towards Florence
Day 8-Arrive Florence, spend 5-6 hours, leave for Venice
Day 9-Arrive Venice, spend the day & evening
Day 10- Depart Venice for Alps, find half-way point to Milan
Day 11- Alps, arrive Milan, dump bikes, scoot to Nice via public transport (train?)
Day 12-Depart Nice
This schedule is aggressive, but doable. Sounds like a good time.

We were in Tuscany over the weekend......need to go back with a motorcycle right now!!

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Old 05-04-2005, 02:00 AM   #21
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coming to italy too

hey guys,
I 'm planning to come to Italy with my gs for a week in mid June, in order to eplore Toscany.
I have decided the following, please tell me your opinion and your suggestions.
I'll be staying in a farm near San Gimignano.
1st day, toscany tour, including Volterra, sienna and abbazia olivetto maggiore
2nd and 3rd day, tour to firenze and spending the day there
4th day return to ankona through pisa and lucca.

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Old 05-04-2005, 01:08 PM   #22
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Climbing up to northern Italy I could suggest you to spend some days in Rome, some in Florence and in Venice, ending the journey in the Dolomites and Alps. Even Milan is worth a visit.
Ciao from sunny Italia
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:17 AM   #23
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Day 5-Rome, ride to Naples in the evening
Day 6-Naples (work ), return to Rome in evening
sorry, don't have time now to post specific routes, but will try to do it in the next few days. (you can start by checking this ride report in the meantime )

the only piece of advice i am going to give you stright away though is DO NOT ride to naples. you would run the risk of seriously spoiling your trip.

take the train instead.

i love the place, but boy it can be hard, hard work (and dangerous, from many points of view ).

you'll thank me.
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Old 05-05-2005, 02:35 PM   #24
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Italy ...

I may give you some advice , particularly about dolomites (look at some of my posts in ride reports..)
an excellent (and cheap ! 5 euro) motorcycle guide is Motociclismo (The oldest - founded 1918- and most important italian moto magazine) "Speciale Itinerari Italiani"
that comes in 2 issues every year...unfortunately it's only in Italian, but plenty of pics and maps may be still understandable..

here is their site ...
http://www.motociclismo.it/edisport/...8?OpenDocument
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:09 PM   #25
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Question Dates & general loop finalized...

I can't tell you how much I appreciate the local knowledge! Looks like the GP is out for Monaco, so we're starting from Geneva instead- over the alps, down the coast to Rome/Naples.

My meeting is at the US Navy facility in Naples, which also includes the hotel we're staying at the night before. Why is riding down to Naples such a bad idea? We'll be inside the security perimeter that night and during the day. We'll only be on the bikes to and from Naples.
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:18 PM   #26
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London & Rome

I'll be on a tour, no bike this time, but as the wife hits the museums I'd love to see some shops and dealers.
Any advise???

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Old 05-12-2005, 08:43 PM   #27
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My meeting is at the US Navy facility in Naples, which also includes the hotel we're staying at the night before. Why is riding down to Naples such a bad idea? We'll be inside the security perimeter that night and during the day. We'll only be on the bikes to and from Naples.
Don't want to spoil your expectations, but riding in Italy is not without risk. The cities, and Naples is one of them, are not friendly to motorcyclists. My wife and I were T-boned on my BMW going thru a green traffic light, by a guy who was simply tired of waiting on his red light. He admitted it, signed the accident report stating he had run the red light, and the police told us to handle it ourselves because no-one had to go to the hospital. He did not even get a ticket. It is a very different mindset there. Italian drivers in the cities are predatory, so don't expect any politeness or courtesy.

That said, I'd go back to Italy in a heartbeat. Naples is a trip, but not a city for the faint-hearted or the neophytes. Be careful, especially down by the train station. If you are going to be riding, get out of Dodge as fast as you can and seek relative safety on the autostrada. If you want to see Naples, leave the bike parked and take the train or a bus.
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Old 05-12-2005, 11:34 PM   #28
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Updated Intinerary, need advise on specific roads!!!

Finally bought the plane tickets and worked out the rental arrangements, so now I could use some advise on some specific roads to maximize our fun! We can always drop something after Rome if we have to. Here's the loop:

Monday, 5/23: Depart Morges, SW (near Lausanne)
Leg 1: South over Alps to Italy
Leg 2: Southern Alps to Genova
Leg 3: Gevova to Cirque Terre, spend night

Tuesday, 5/24 Depart Cirque Terre southbound
Leg 1: Cirque Terre to Pisa
Leg 2: Pisa to Sienna?
Leg 3: Sienna to Civita? Or we could just go down the coast from CT?

Wednesday, 5/25 Arrive Rome AM, park bike at hotel, see sites

Thursday, Work

Friday, 5/27 More Rome, depart in afternoon towards Florence
Leg 1: Rome to Assisi
Leg 2: Assisi to Florence

Saturday, 5/28 Most of day in Florence, leave late towards Venice

Sunday, 5/29 Arrive Venice, take photo, leave for Bolzano/North

Monday, 5/30 Head back towards Switzerland via twisty Alps

Tuesday, 5/31 Alps back to Lausanne, return bike by 17:00
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Old 05-13-2005, 06:10 AM   #29
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I'll be on a tour, no bike this time, but as the wife hits the museums I'd love to see some shops and dealers.
Any advise???

Thanks
My advice is to follow the wife to the museums. You can see the euro models on the web.

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Old 05-13-2005, 06:23 AM   #30
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Don't want to spoil your expectations, but riding in Italy is not without risk. ... My wife and I were T-boned on my BMW going thru a green traffic light, by a guy who was simply tired of waiting on his red light. ....
While I agree that italians are aggressive drivers (I had to way tone it down when I moved here) I would respectfully notice that it is not much different from the US or at least Texas. If it wasn't for me paying attention and always leave a few seconds when the lights turn green, I would have been Tboned countless time by some imbesil running the red light. And I have been rearended twice by some jackass that, for some reason, is not coordinated enough to keep his brake pedal pressed while changing radio station. Interestingly I have never been in an accident while in Italy.

Do not be afraid of driving there. But do not be too relaxed either. As it has been said countless times before, safety on a motorcycle is an active thing and Italy is not different.
Expect people not to see you, slow down and look at the intersection even if you have the right of way, and if you are not confident with the higher speeds and closer distances keep on the rightmost lane.

Have fun!

Oh In Naples there is an ancient restaurant that it is said to be the one who invented the Pizza Margherita in honor of our queen. The name escapes me but it should be well known in Naples. I would strongly reccomend you go there at least once and try it. You may never call what they sell this side of the pond pizza..


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