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Old 01-20-2012, 05:29 PM   #31
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Saw the video and I liked it, the video and the bike. I was curious how the comments would go on the Judge vs. "The Neanderthal".

A lot of posters on this thread have been critical of the main actor in the video. Would it have made a difference in how the bike is percieved if the actor would have been another age, sex, body type, race, or sexual orientation? Does your demagraphic have to be represented to feel the product is for you?

I posted this on the "Neanderthal" thread. Did it make a difference how you percieved this bike since the riders were wearing FF helmets and the rider that removed said helmet was a 20 something black female?
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Old 01-20-2012, 05:52 PM   #32
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Did it make a difference how you percieved this bike since the riders were wearing FF helmets and the rider that removed said helmet was a 20 something black female?
Not a bit of difference. I prefer this bike because the riding style is closer to the kind of riding that appeals to me, the ape hangers on the Neanderthal just look ridiculous.
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Old 01-20-2012, 06:01 PM   #33
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Not a bit of difference. I prefer this bike because the riding style is closer to the kind of riding that appeals to me, the ape hangers on the Neanderthal just look ridiculous.

I have a Harley Street Bob and It suprised me how comfortable the higher bars are. I have a quick attach touring shield for longer highway trips to block the wind at speed. It's the only bike I have that dosen't put my hands to sleep. I Will not argue ergonomics with anyone though because it depends on the person.
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Old 01-20-2012, 06:22 PM   #34
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I really like the muscle car-ish wheels.


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Old 01-20-2012, 06:22 PM   #35
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I have a Harley Street Bob and It suprised me how comfortable the higher bars are. I have a quick attach touring shield for longer highway trips to block the wind at speed. It's the only bike I have that dosen't put my hands to sleep. I Will not argue ergonomics with anyone though because it depends on the person.
If they work for you, that's great. I've never ridden with them so I can't comment on the functionality, so I stuck to the appearance, which is completely subjective.

To me, hanging off a motorcycle like a parachute just looks wrong.
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:43 PM   #36
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I don't get it. What question is this the answer to?
I LOVE Victory, but..
Don't like the seat design or that it's beyond useless for a passenger.
Hate the side covers.
I've always thought Michael Song nailed fender design. This time not so much.
A "muscle" bike with skinny, old-Harleyesque 16s front and rear and only one disc? And no male slider fork?
Don't like the XRoads tank on this type of bike.
Is that a Kawasaki tail light?
I'm pretty sure that's the rear wheel and tire from a '77 Harley Low Rider.
A similarly equipped Hammer 8Ball is IMHO a MUCH better looking bike with more of a muscle bike stance for only $500 more.
A High Ball or Vegas 8 Ball cost less.
My ABS equipped mid control muscle bike (Triumph Roadster) was the same $14K, new ones are 15K.
Headlight ain't bad.

Maybe it's just supposed to be a low, mid control bike?

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Old 01-20-2012, 09:21 PM   #37
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great, you get to ride around looking like you're incubating a big orange egg.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:40 PM   #38
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Yeah, I yawned too.

I'm confused by Victory.

They already have plenty of bikes at this price point. They already have a muscle bike in the Hammer S. It's no VMax, but it makes a decent poser machine.

What's the point of this thing?
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:43 PM   #39
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great, you get to ride around looking like you're incubating a big orange egg.
Or just pick a different color -

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Old 01-20-2012, 10:33 PM   #40
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Yawn, and What is with the stupid oval thing under the seat?
The number board...

Who will be the first to put a "13" there?
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:34 PM   #41
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I've always thought Michael Song nailed fender design. This time not so much.
The sharp corners at the rear of the fender just suck.

Otherwise, it's not so bad...
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:52 PM   #42
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This bike was at the NY IMS 2012 today, so I got a chance to see it first hand and sit on it and go "vroom, vroom" which is not quite as good as a road test... Touching on points mentioned earlier in the thread, - in a nutshell, think V-max, Warrior, Mean Streak, V-rod, not Buell or Diavel. It is the least feet-forward of the Victory lineup, but not "standard" ergos, comfortable enough I guess, 106CI engine, nothing revolutionary. Honestly, I was hoping Victory would show up with a "Sportster-killer" since rumors of a relatively high-spec low price point bike have been circulating for several years. What a surprise that it's getting Pooh-poohed here on ADV.
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:31 AM   #43
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Interesting attempt.... Skimped on the forks and front brakes. Why not a 17 or 19 front wheel at least? It looks off balance that way.Perhaps the old Fat rear tire car look?

Not bad though..
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:51 AM   #44
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16" front and rear? What were they thinking?

A good ride and cheap tires.

Single front disc is enough and looks better than two.

Pipes are great.

So is the number plate look.

Good seating position and the exposed struts on the rear fender are a great place to hang a set of aluminum mail boxes.

Mid-pegs don't drag as soon as forwards or floorboards.


They did a nice job.

What kind of HP hits the ground on these?
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:52 AM   #45
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I like it. (is that wrong????)

I really want a test ride on this one. Methinks this may be my next scoot. I ride a 2003 Moto Guzzi Stone (since new) and love it BTW. Ha Ha! I hope Victory sells a boatload of these. The Judge looks to be a good all arounder. I was looking at the Cross Roads also. Most of my riding is 50-400 mile/day. The Judge would fit the bill if I could rok strap a big ass ortlieb bag on the back and run a magnetic tanky bag. The bootiful cast wheels are a plus. Victory folks feel free to flame my ignorance or kindly respond. peace.
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