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Old Yesterday, 01:04 PM   #1
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Types of rivets...

Rebuilding some old Wixom sidebags. Everything was riveted together. I suppose they were pop rivets, although the inside (where the mandrel popped off) looked less deformed than the Ace hardware aluminum ones I'm used to. Looked at McMaster Carr and I'm a bit confused at the options. I'd like them to come out looking like the originals. They're mostly 1/8", and I'm pretty sure they were aluminum heads, caused they drilled out easily. The tube, or shaft not so much. Just trying to learn, so far I'm thinking I want domed heads for a cleaner outside appearance than countersunk, but that's based on pix, not experience. I'll go take a pix of the unmolested ones, if someone could point me to the right type to buy to replace them with, I'd be appreciative.
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Old Yesterday, 01:35 PM   #2
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Are the existing ones traditional pop rivets with a hollow shaft, or are they solid on the bottom?
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Old Yesterday, 01:47 PM   #3
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They are clearly hollow shafts, but some of them have washers on both sides, not sure if that was part of the rivet or just added separately. Here's some pix..inside view

outside of same rivets..

then for the aluminum trim, there's no washers at least on the outside...

Thanks for any input, the main thing I noticed is that the shaft is not nearly so deformed as when I use the ones I got at local hardware stores...

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Old Yesterday, 02:06 PM   #4
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If the shaft was badly deformed after installation, they were probably too long. They're available in different lengths, and you need to use the proper length for the total material thickness you're riveting.
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Old Yesterday, 02:30 PM   #5
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Those are just run of the mill hardware store pop rivets. The backing washers are there to add strength as the holes through the part are most likely much larger than the rivet would grab.

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Old Yesterday, 03:27 PM   #6
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Saddlebags should have closed-end rivets to help keep water and dirt out of the interior. I agree that the washers are to help shore up the material to keep the rivets from pulling through. The grip length you purchase will need to correspond to the total depth of the hole, including any trim or washers you use. Steel is stronger than aluminum, but as you can see, corrodes if it's not kept painted. I'd bet that there are different wall thicknesses available, too.
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Check into "Multi Grip" Rivets...

I know I can get them at my local Ace. They look much cleaner and less deformed when installed.



This is what they look like before use...

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Old Yesterday, 06:10 PM   #8
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I haven't seen those multi grip rivets yet, but I'll start looking for them. Closed end...aren't they all that way once the shaft is 'popped'? Guess I could always put a drop of RTV on the inside....
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Old Yesterday, 07:37 PM   #9
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Go here for your rivet needs.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/
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Go here for your rivet needs.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/

Good source for small quantities, but be careful what you buy. Some of those blind fasteners ("pop rivets") are steel or have a steel core/locking ring, and they'll strip (or even break) the pulling jaws on normal residential-grade pop riveters.
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