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Old 02-11-2012, 08:08 PM   #16
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I'll see about getting some weights on some stuff tomorrow , I have some loose stuff laying around and a pretty decent scale .
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:47 AM   #17
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Wow - takes serious analysis and planning to shed that kind of weight. Looks like you're approaching it the right way.

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FWIW one of the things I have seen is that people tend to fudge on figuring real net loss / gain, by listing things removed, but not always things put back on.For example, pulling the engine guard bars off saves weight.....but a skidplate adds even more back on. Adding HD tires and tubes add a ton of weight (anyone weighed a Dunlop 606 lately?) Again, hoping to get real component weights of items removed, substituted, and added on.


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Old 02-17-2012, 04:35 PM   #18
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If you have ever wondered why these things are so heavy, hold the right footpeg assembly in your hands. It weighs 1.65 pounds.

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Old 02-17-2012, 04:37 PM   #19
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Damn BP

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you still needing some weights , if so , I will get on it tomorrow ,
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Old 02-17-2012, 04:49 PM   #20
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Damn BP

My Bad ,

you still needing some weights , if so , I will get on it tomorrow ,
No worries.....all good.

I am gonna see if I can get mine under 300...

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Old 02-17-2012, 07:51 PM   #21
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Ok , some things I have 2 of , some I dont , I took a few weights of some of the stuff I had easily in my reach this evening ,

hopefully you , or someone else can weigh the corresponding part ,

so lets start with a couple of things that can be completely lost , or swapped out with an aftermarket peice .

I'll let you handle the editing the spread sheet in your opening post.


How bout lets get rid of the OEM mirrors except for inspection time .

.56 lbs each x 2 is 1.12 lbs , or 18 ounces









and then the OEM skidplate , 1.25 lbs ,

would like to know what the replacement aluminum weighs in at .




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Old 02-17-2012, 08:14 PM   #22
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Empty battery box and mounting bracket , not a bad weightloss dropping this thing .



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Old 02-17-2012, 08:17 PM   #23
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K & N air filter , and a set of passenger pegs .










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Old 02-17-2012, 09:20 PM   #24
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nice scale! all those little things add up. you ever notice how much more power the bike feels like with a almost empty tank of gas? my xr would wheelie a lot easier for sure.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:30 PM   #25
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nice scale! all those little things add up. you ever notice how much more power the bike feels like with a almost empty tank of gas? my xr would wheelie a lot easier for sure.

Thanks ,

anything in particular anyone want a weight on , if I have it loose , I'll get it done ,

I have a set of forks off the L I will weigh tomorrow along with a set of CRF forks .


here's a few more weights ,

Big difference in rear sprockets


Here's an aluminum 44 t and a steel 45 t , now thats a big % difference








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Old 02-17-2012, 10:20 PM   #26
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324lbs is probably dry weight without a battery. About 340lbs is probably more accurate. I'm with you on the XRL being a little to hefty for off-road riding. I have a 97 XRL and a 96 600R. The 600R is right around 300lbs wet which is about the maximum weight i'm comfortable with for what I ride. The XRL has been parked since I got it.

At some point it you may want to consider a different bike, getting an XRL under 280lbs can be done, but you will likely spend a lot to do it.
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324lbs is probably dry weight without a battery. About 340lbs is probably more accurate. I'm with you on the XRL being a little to hefty for off-road riding. I have a 97 XRL and a 96 600R. The 600R is right around 300lbs wet which is about the maximum weight i'm comfortable with for what I ride. The XRL has been parked since I got it.

At some point it you may want to consider a different bike, getting an XRL under 280lbs can be done, but you will likely spend a lot to do it.
FWIW 324 is supposed to be with the battery, with fluid. Agree on the 600 comparison, they are heavy also but still much lighter than the L. I doubt 280 is reachable unless e-start was ditched. Still, it is a great platform for DS riding.

Your comparison w/the 600R and the 650L is relevant. OTOH, I fully anticipate that some other inmate will skim the thread title, and generously illuminate 1. that the 650L is heavy, 2. that this fact had never occurred to me, 3. that his XXZ450 is a much better choice, and 4. that I should be placed on Darwin's watch list for such a foolish endeavor. In anticipation of that, I need to get this out of the way: I am well aware it would be easier or cheaper to get something else, but my goal is to improve this bike.

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Old 02-18-2012, 08:37 AM   #28
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Here's another 1 forya BP stock tank with cap but no petcock ,

and the shrouds with gaskets and mounting hardware.








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Old 02-18-2012, 08:57 AM   #29
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Garmin 60CSX (w/ 2x AA batteries) and RAM system... "Short" 2" RAM Arm, and RAM's 60C cradle with backing plate. All aluminum except for the cradle, which is some sort of plastic composite.

Note... I did *not* include the mount on the bike. I use one of these ( http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid/082065077045066045050053050085/Default.aspx ) and it is *very* light.. Probably less than an ounce.Piece by piece?

Garmin 60CSX w/ Batteries -> 7.25 oz, or ~0.45 lbs
2" Short RAM Arm -> 2.75 oz, or ~0.17 lbs
Cradle w/ Backing Plate -> 2.25 oz, or ~0.14 lbs
RAM Base (Assumed) -> appox 1oz ,~0.06 lbs

Roughly 0.82lbs total.

Assume some error, as the scale will only handle quarters of an ounce, or 5 gram units at a time. Worst case, 0.85 lbs for the entire system.
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One thing I wanted to point out - that 0.85lb weight was for the whole system... The 60CSX by itself comes in at about .45lbs; you may want to change the original post to reflect that. It's tough to qualitatively measure RAM mounts, cradles, bases and so on, as one person may have it rigged differently than the next, using a different base or a longer RAM arm, for example. Throw in fancy oversized Touratech GPS cradles/mounts and so on, the picture gets even more fuzzy.

As far as RAM systems go for the 60 and 70 series, those weights will be close for most users. With a longer arm and a different base, such as the handlebar clamping mount, then maybe a touch higher. Still, I can't imagine it'd be much beyond 1lb total. I consider my setup to be pretty much the bare minimum, using the smallest RAM arm, and arguably one of RAM's lightest bases. Given the relatively light weight of the 60/70 units, I don't know how it'd be possible to drop more weight from a GPS system using this setup.

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