Rally West Virginia 2012 - Page 15

drc42 · 04-04-2012, 11:01 AM

Anders,

Would be kind of cool to be able to see my speed factor, perhaps it could be put on the nasarallysport site in the profile info where people could see their own speed factor but not necessarily out there for everybody to see. Just thinking that over time it would be an interesting way to measure progress. Well, that and your system of how many "almost" moments of course. I think I am improving in that area, didn't end up on the ground once at Sandblast (had 1 fall each at RWV and BRS last year).

crankshaft · 04-04-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by drc42

Anders,

Would be kind of cool to be able to see my speed factor, perhaps it could be put on the nasarallysport site in the profile info where people could see their own speed factor but not necessarily out there for everybody to see. Just thinking that over time it would be an interesting way to measure progress. Well, that and your system of how many "almost" moments of course. I think I am improving in that area, didn't end up on the ground once at Sandblast (had 1 fall each at RWV and BRS last year).

http://rallymoto.com/NRS-Speedfactors-Bike.pdf

From 2010, so they are public, just not updated

Anders Green · 04-04-2012, 11:53 AM

I'll tell you what I hate: getting an email a week after the rally asking me when the speedfactors are going to be updated. Because after putting on a rally I like to relax with a nice evening of cozying up to a a spreadsheet and crunching a bunch of numbers, it's really a nice reward after the stress of putting on a rally.

Yeah, they're interesting... but they work best at what they're designed to do: get a rough start order figured out. People tend to put more value into them than they deserve, after all, they boil down a thousand turns over a year into one number.

Doug, you're a smart cookie... you can figure out your own speed factor. Your overall time (in seconds) / Winner's overall time (in seconds). Average your last 3 events. Easy.

Cheers,
Anders

Stagehand · 04-04-2012, 12:07 PM

If I'm at .88 than the fast guys have not been showing up lately

M.A.G. · 04-04-2012, 12:21 PM

Ok, I'm in. Emailed my paperwork to Amy yesterday.

One request though, is that when I am trying to kick start my XRR, I need everyone to chant "start piggy, start piggy, start piggy, start..." until it does.

Look forward to meeting all of you.

drc42 · 04-04-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by M.A.G.

Ok, I'm in. Emailed my paperwork to Amy yesterday.

One request though, is that when I am trying to kick start my XRR, I need everyone to chant "start piggy, start piggy, start piggy, start..." until it does.

Look forward to meeting all of you.

I think we can handle that

hardwaregrrl · 04-04-2012, 06:10 PM

Anders, I saw that off-camber crash last year. Scary, but I totally saw the problem through your eyes. I'm having fun telling people what I'm up to...."you're gonna race that?!" (pointing at my bike with a truly scary facial expression)....So I can't back out now. I just hope I wont break too much stuff on my bike, I'm running out of money fixing this thing?! Maybe I should bring my welder.

On that note...could I have a list of what you guys carry ON THE BIKE spare and tool wise? Stupid to carry tubes, on the bike?

crankshaft · 04-04-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hardwaregrrl

On that note...could I have a list of what you guys carry ON THE BIKE spare and tool wise? Stupid to carry tubes, on the bike?

pjm204 · 04-04-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hardwaregrrl

On that note...could I have a list of what you guys carry ON THE BIKE spare and tool wise? Stupid to carry tubes, on the bike?

I think I'll probably bring a front tube solely because I'm riding there so by the end of the weekend I will have close to 1000 miles on it, but I don't suspect I will need it. I'll have nice fresh rubber on for the race.

I'll have a small tool roll I think, nothing fancy.

Anders Green · 04-04-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hardwaregrrl

:Maybe I should bring my welder.

Seriously though... a few of the car guys will have one. Don't worry. ;)

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On that note...could I have a list of what you guys carry ON THE BIKE spare and tool wise? Stupid to carry tubes, on the bike?

Tubes? Anyone carry tubes? I bet someone does, but it's probably rare. Zip ties, yes. BIG zip ties, yes. Some safety/bailing wire. A few screwdrivers/hex keys/wrenches. But really, water and a energy bar.

Pretty much the guys at the front, they carry almost nothing. The guys at the back, they have the same dual sport tool kit they usually carry.

Anders

drc42 · 04-04-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hardwaregrrl

Anders, I saw that off-camber crash last year. Scary, but I totally saw the problem through your eyes. I'm having fun telling people what I'm up to...."you're gonna race that?!" (pointing at my bike with a truly scary facial expression)....So I can't back out now. I just hope I wont break too much stuff on my bike, I'm running out of money fixing this thing?! Maybe I should bring my welder.

On that note...could I have a list of what you guys carry ON THE BIKE spare and tool wise? Stupid to carry tubes, on the bike?

I have a small toolkit with the essentials that fits into a Krega "stash-wallet". Not enough to change a tire but has a folding T-handle wrench, small vice grips, screwdrivers, etc. That and a roll of duct tape has been enough to deal with issues I have needed. I don't carry a spare tube or pump, hasn't bitten me yet. Hmmm probably shouldn't have said that out loud

hardwaregrrl · 04-04-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Anders Green

Seriously though... a few of the car guys will have one. Don't worry. ;)

Tubes? Anyone carry tubes? I bet someone does, but it's probably rare. Zip ties, yes. BIG zip ties, yes. Some safety/bailing wire. A few screwdrivers/hex keys/wrenches. But really, water and a energy bar.

Pretty much the guys at the front, they carry almost nothing. The guys at the back, they have the same dual sport tool kit they usually carry.

Anders

Thanks Anders. Guess I'll loose all spares on the bike, and keep them back at the car. I mean if you have to change a tube on a stage, are you really going to be able to continue? Is there a breakdown time limit???

crankshaft · 04-04-2012, 07:12 PM

If you have the nunchucks, you can force someone to change a tube for you

Stagehand · 04-04-2012, 07:17 PM

Changing a tube on a stage would mean at least a half hour to an hour of combat which would basically mean I was out of it.

I only carry a minimum set of stuff on the bike, like those guys said, but I do bring along an extra tube and irons in a saddlebag in case I blow one on Friday or in between somewhere.

Its like a twenty minute rule: dont bring along any tools you will need to do a job that will take longer than ten or twenty minutes.

I do keep a battery charger, and a few other bigger things back at service. Extra oil, filters, random bottle caps and change. Lint. Shiny bits.

Stagehand · 04-04-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crankshaft

If you have the nunchucks, you can force someone to change a tube for you

04-04-2012, 11:01 AM	#211
drc42 Rally Dreamer Joined: Apr 2009 Location: New Hampshire Oddometer: 1,580	Speed factors Anders, Would be kind of cool to be able to see my speed factor, perhaps it could be put on the nasarallysport site in the profile info where people could see their own speed factor but not necessarily out there for everybody to see. Just thinking that over time it would be an interesting way to measure progress. Well, that and your system of how many "almost" moments of course. I think I am improving in that area, didn't end up on the ground once at Sandblast (had 1 fall each at RWV and BRS last year). __________________ follow my journey: Dreaming of Dakar Special thanks to my sponsors: Freedom Cycle of Concord NH BRP Renazco Racing MX1West Help support my racing addiction and look cool doing it! Buy a T-shirt or hat from the Dakar Dream Store

04-04-2012, 11:53 AM	#213
Anders Green NASA Rally Sport Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Oddometer: 1,921	I'll tell you what I hate: getting an email a week after the rally asking me when the speedfactors are going to be updated. Because after putting on a rally I like to relax with a nice evening of cozying up to a a spreadsheet and crunching a bunch of numbers, it's really a nice reward after the stress of putting on a rally. Yeah, they're interesting... but they work best at what they're designed to do: get a rough start order figured out. People tend to put more value into them than they deserve, after all, they boil down a thousand turns over a year into one number. Doug, you're a smart cookie... you can figure out your own speed factor. Your overall time (in seconds) / Winner's overall time (in seconds). Average your last 3 events. Easy. Cheers, Anders __________________ [NORRA Mexican 1000 Scoring Chief] [Organizer of Sandblast Rally / Black River Stages / NASA Rally Sport RallyMoto]

04-04-2012, 12:07 PM	#214
Stagehand ^OP +/- V TDSPP Joined: Oct 2004 Location: "Poughkeepsie?!?!" Oddometer: 19,853	If I'm at .88 than the fast guys have not been showing up lately __________________ What to do... What to do...

04-04-2012, 06:10 PM	#217
hardwaregrrl Shit for brains Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta Oddometer: 4,856	Thanks guys!!! Anders, I saw that off-camber crash last year. Scary, but I totally saw the problem through your eyes. I'm having fun telling people what I'm up to...."you're gonna race that?!" (pointing at my bike with a truly scary facial expression)....So I can't back out now. I just hope I wont break too much stuff on my bike, I'm running out of money fixing this thing?! Maybe I should bring my welder. On that note...could I have a list of what you guys carry ON THE BIKE spare and tool wise? Stupid to carry tubes, on the bike? __________________ Trans Lab RR-broke down in Ontario-2 stroke fun for 200 bucks- TCAT R100 GS racks For Sale My life aboard an R80ST

04-04-2012, 07:12 PM	#223
crankshaft Guns are for pussies Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Burlingtron,VT Oddometer: 13,783	If you have the nunchucks, you can force someone to change a tube for you __________________ Just say'IN

04-04-2012, 12:21 PM	#215
M.A.G. I heart Penalties Joined: Jul 2008 Location: George-uh. Oddometer: 1,006	Ok, I'm in. Emailed my paperwork to Amy yesterday. One request though, is that when I am trying to kick start my XRR, I need everyone to chant "start piggy, start piggy, start piggy, start..." until it does. Look forward to meeting all of you.

04-04-2012, 07:17 PM	#224
Stagehand ^OP +/- V TDSPP Joined: Oct 2004 Location: "Poughkeepsie?!?!" Oddometer: 19,853	Changing a tube on a stage would mean at least a half hour to an hour of combat which would basically mean I was out of it. I only carry a minimum set of stuff on the bike, like those guys said, but I do bring along an extra tube and irons in a saddlebag in case I blow one on Friday or in between somewhere. Its like a twenty minute rule: dont bring along any tools you will need to do a job that will take longer than ten or twenty minutes. I do keep a battery charger, and a few other bigger things back at service. Extra oil, filters, random bottle caps and change. Lint. Shiny bits. __________________ What to do... What to do...

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