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Old 02-19-2012, 05:24 PM   #1
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Philadelphia & Reading 4-8-4 "Northern" Type Locomotive 2100 - Very Cool!

This train is stored near by and my friend got permission to go check it out so I took my camera along with me. This engine is HUGE! It was amazing to see an engine like this up close, it is very complex in design and would take a TON of maint to keep this unit running.

It was operational up till 2006 when it was parked and has been sitting since. It has been converted from coal fired to an oil burner but from what I've read on the net the conversion wasn't done successfully and damage to the fire box etc may have occurred. It's a shame to see it sitting out in the weather, although we do live in a desert climate so it should hold up pretty good being stored here out side. Hopefully some day someone will buy it and restore it or at least move it inside to a museum etc. There has been some vandalism by teens etc who broke out the windows and glass on the front lights...Grrrrrr, why can't people just respect items like this and leave them alone!

Only 4 of the T1 engines still exist...making this a very rare piece of history!

This site has a lot of info on the T1 engines, along with quite a bit of history on 2100. CLICK HERE

And a link off youtube of 2100 in action after being converted to a oil burner




I snapped a lot of pictures of this rare piece of history, thought some of you might like a close look as well.

















































































































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Old 02-19-2012, 06:05 PM   #2
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What a Grand old machine!

Thanks for posting the pics
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:59 PM   #3
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What a piece of American history. Thanks for posting. Really sad to see the irreplaceable glass lens of the ditch lights and headlights broken. Hopefully it will find a good home somewhere before more vandalism occurs.
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:36 AM   #4
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The Henry Ford museum in Dearborn has a 4-6-6-6 on display. The most powerful locomotive ever produced.


The ultimate locomotive on the C&O and one for which it will always be remembered is the 2-6-6-6 simple articulated H-8 class Allegheny type. It is the only steam locomotive to handle a 6-wheel trailing truck (because of its cavernous fire box), and generated the highest instantaneous and sustained drawbar horsepower at speed of any steam locomotive. It was also the heaviest locomotive ever built. Some say that if the C&O had used this wonderful machine to its fullest potential it could have routinely outperformed even the diesels. Sixty of these giants were built between 1941 and 1948. Two remain, Number 1601 at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, MI and Number 1694 at the B&O Railroad Museum in Baltimore,
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:08 AM   #5
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The Henry Ford museum in Dearborn has a 4-6-6-6 on display. The most powerful locomotive ever produced.


The ultimate locomotive on the C&O and one for which it will always be remembered is the 2-6-6-6 simple articulated H-8 class Allegheny type. It is the only steam locomotive to handle a 6-wheel trailing truck (because of its cavernous fire box), and generated the highest instantaneous and sustained drawbar horsepower at speed of any steam locomotive. It was also the heaviest locomotive ever built. Some say that if the C&O had used this wonderful machine to its fullest potential it could have routinely outperformed even the diesels. Sixty of these giants were built between 1941 and 1948. Two remain, Number 1601 at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, MI and Number 1694 at the B&O Railroad Museum in Baltimore,
Built in Scenic Lima, Ohio. The factory is now gone, but it was an immense complex. All done with no CAD no CAM, just brute force, hand operated machine tools, muscle and sweat.

Lima as a locomotive producer, didn't survive the end of steam, they did build some diesels, but it seemed their heart wasn't in it. After a merger with Baldwin, they continued building cranes and some other construction equipment, last under the Clark name, until about 1980.
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:10 AM   #6
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I believe a sister to the Reading loco above pulled the Freedom Train thru our town around 1976. The Lima SP "Daylight" used out west was too big for the tunnels out east. I believe the Daylight still runs today, but the loco from the freedom train burned up in a shed fire. (yeah, a steam loco perished in a fire.)
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:22 AM   #7
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I never cease to be amazed at not only the sheer size and weight of these old pieces of machinery, but the fact they seemed to be built with such artistic quality as well as the technological prowess. They are, even in these days of technological wonderment, an amazing peice of machinery to look at. It is not only hard to believe they were built to such a scale in the times they were built, but that men with hand tools and basic chain hoists and such maintained and repaired them. I also hear they took a boggling amount of maintenance. I love to see them in person for the sheer scale of them.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:43 PM   #9
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Great pics; thanks much for posting.

I posted a link to this thread on the Railway Preservation News "Interchange" forum (http://www.rypn.org); it's generated a lot of discussion there today.

The outfit that moved this engine out west apparently had big plans for its operation but didn't do a very good job of planning. The oil firing conversion was apparently poorly engineered and didn't work well (we've been oil-firing locomotives since about 1900 so it's not like it's cutting edge technology).

Sure would be good to see this engine get put right again and put back into service.
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Very nice pics!! Thanks for posting I love steam engines of all types and have seen the one in the Ford museum. It too is an impressive sight!
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:41 PM   #11
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There's a 4-8-8-4 in Dallas at the Fair Park museum.
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I am always astounded / impresed / intrigued about the height of the flange on the wheels, they never look enough to stay on the rails - but they do

BIG bit of kit

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Old 02-21-2012, 07:14 PM   #13
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I am always astounded / impresed / intrigued about the height of the flange on the wheels, they never look enough to stay on the rails - but they do

BIG bit of kit

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Hay Ewe,

I'm noticing some commonality in your posts!

Flange! Not that there is anything wrong with that at all...
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