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Old 03-05-2012, 12:59 PM   #61
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Old 03-05-2012, 03:00 PM   #62
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How about American owned
Well........I believe that Toyota, Ford and GM are all multi-national companies with global reach, and their shares are publicly traded on the NYSE and, no doubt, in Japan and other countries as well. Toyota is headquarted in Japan and certainly had it's origins there, just as Ford and GM did here. I think that Chrysler is privately owned, although am not sure about that. I do not know what the percentages of stockholders in different countries would be, but imagine that Toyota has relatively more Japanese stockholders and Ford/GM American ones. But as far as providing Americans with jobs, and bringing it home to a specific truck/product, the Toyo Tundra is no slouch and may well surpass the F150 or the Silverado. Oh, and the 5.7 goes like a bat out of hell!!!
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:20 PM   #63
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You're over thinking it.
I know. Happens everytime I buy something.

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What will you be towing?

Power of the 5.3 is 270–305 hp, and torque is 315 lb·ft to 335 lb·ft depending on year and model.

My Suburban with 5.3 has over 208,000 miles and has been a great vehicle.
I'm going to be buying a camper shortly and i'd like a truck that can tow 10K or so pounds. We have an 07' Tahoe with the 5.3 and that thing cant get out of its own way, but its probably geared high. My brother had a GMC truck with the 5.3 and I felt my Tundra ran just as good or better with the 4.7. I'm sure its all gearing, but still,,,.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:50 PM   #64
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I know. Happens everytime I buy something.

I'm going to be buying a camper shortly and i'd like a truck that can tow 10K or so pounds. We have an 07' Tahoe with the 5.3 and that thing cant get out of its own way, but its probably geared high. My brother had a GMC truck with the 5.3 and I felt my Tundra ran just as good or better with the 4.7. I'm sure its all gearing, but still,,,.
At 10,000 lbs, you'll be needing a 2500-series of whatever you buy...

The newer GM 2500s will be 6.0 liter. Gearing will be 3.73 or 4.10.

My Suburban has 3.73 gearing and gets along nicely with its 5.3...

If your Tahoe is 2wd and running 3.42 or taller, I can see the complaint.
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:13 PM   #65
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At 10,000 lbs, you'll be needing a 2500-series of whatever you buy...

The newer GM 2500s will be 6.0 liter. Gearing will be 3.73 or 4.10.

My Suburban has 3.73 gearing and gets along nicely with its 5.3...

If your Tahoe is 2wd and running 3.42 or taller, I can see the complaint.
Yeah, I realize the i'll need a 2500 series or so, but the new Tundras will tow about 10,500 and thats pretty decent. This is why i've been checking on the 6.0's and 6.2's, etc,,,.

Tahoe is 4WD with a towing package,but I have no idea what the gearing is. All I know is that its a mutt.
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:30 PM   #66
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Yeah, I realize the i'll need a 2500 series or so, but the new Tundras will tow about 10,500 and thats pretty decent. This is why i've been checking on the 6.0's and 6.2's, etc,,,.

Tahoe is 4WD with a towing package,but I have no idea what the gearing is. All I know is that its a mutt.

I need to learn about this gearing. Where do you look to find it on a truck you're looking at?
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Old 03-09-2012, 12:40 AM   #67
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I need to learn about this gearing. Where do you look to find it on a truck you're looking at?
I dont know a lot about it either, but I think the gearing is listed on the window stickers for the new ones and a code is listed on the safety compliance badge on the door jamb, but you would have to reference that somehow.

At least thats what I came up with when I googled it.
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The codes are on the door jam and then as was said google it. There are forums for everything..
Gearing can make the difference between towing and not towing much. My truck with a v6, automatic and 3.55 gear is rated for almost 6000. The same truck with a five speed and v8 and higher gear (lower number) is only rated at 2000 pounds..yuck. So yeah, it makes all the difference in the world, axle ratio, transmission choice, engine size.
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One also needs to keep in mind that on a used/pre-owned truck there is at least a remote possibility that gears have been changed.
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At 10,000 lbs, you'll be needing a 2500-series of whatever you buy...

The newer GM 2500s will be 6.0 liter. Gearing will be 3.73 or 4.10.

My Suburban has 3.73 gearing and gets along nicely with its 5.3...

If your Tahoe is 2wd and running 3.42 or taller, I can see the complaint.
Are you talking axle ratio?

Axle Ratios are for the 2012 Chev 1500 "3.42 and 3.08 "
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Are you talking axle ratio?

Axle Ratios are for the 2012 Chev 1500 "3.42 and 3.08 "
those sound kinda tall... I think there's a 3.70- or 3.80-something out there too, check the tow package option it will put the right one in there for you.

at 6,000 lbs, I would certainly go with a 1/2 ton, maybe with a weight-distributing hitch.


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Old 03-26-2012, 12:25 PM   #72
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At 10,000 lbs, you'll be needing a 2500-series of whatever you buy...

The newer GM 2500s will be 6.0 liter. Gearing will be 3.73 or 4.10.

My Suburban has 3.73 gearing and gets along nicely with its 5.3...

If your Tahoe is 2wd and running 3.42 or taller, I can see the complaint.
What about a 2010 1500 4X4 Chev with the 3.42 Rear Axle Ratio and the 5.30 Vortec 5.3L V8 SFI VVT FlexFuel?
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:23 PM   #73
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Yeah, I realize the i'll need a 2500 series or so, but the new Tundras will tow about 10,500 and thats pretty decent. This is why i've been checking on the 6.0's and 6.2's, etc,,,.

Tahoe is 4WD with a towing package,but I have no idea what the gearing is. All I know is that its a mutt.
According to http://www.toyota.com/tundra/specs.html. The Tundra with the towing package can only handle 8,100lbs. And just because the manufacture states something doesn't mean you should do it. That's a lot of weight for a small truck.
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What about a 2010 1500 4X4 Chev with the 3.42 Rear Axle Ratio and the 5.30 Vortec 5.3L V8 SFI VVT FlexFuel?
Have you tried finding owners of the boat you're looking at and seeing what trucks they are using to tow? Also ask about the conditions they tow in. One thing I'd be concerned about with any 1500 is the weight of the truck being on the light side. Think about windy conditions and your boat which is going to act like a sail. With the smaller trucks you'll have the trailer taking control and pushing you around.
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What about a 2010 1500 4X4 Chev with the 3.42 Rear Axle Ratio and the 5.30 Vortec 5.3L V8 SFI VVT FlexFuel?
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