KTM 300 opinions

[ganshert]

Originally Posted by Wannabeeuro

Try googling Smartcarb and all you find are sites for people that fear bread.

Jeff posted a link above.

[VxZeroKnots]

Originally Posted by Wannabeeuro

Try googling Smartcarb and all you find are sites for people that fear bread.

What a bunch of glutards.

Originally Posted by Wannabeeuro

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And how does that work on a bike without a battery?

looks like it works via the good ol' Bernoulli's principle and some pressure differentials... hmmmm

[Wannabeeuro]

I live in glutardia, I think I'm the last guy in town that doesn't fear the loaf...

Originally Posted by VxZeroKnots

What a bunch of glutards.



looks like it works via the good ol' Bernoulli's principle and some pressure differentials... hmmmm

[RideFreak]

Originally Posted by Wannabeeuro

My dumb carb works perfectly, why mess with a good thing?

Exactly, that allot of $ to replace something that actually works pretty good.

[RideFreak]

Originally Posted by ganshert

"lowered emissions, greater fuel economy and increased performance"

If your question was valid your car would still have a carburetor.

This is a carburator not FI, probably a better one than stock but no getting around it, still a dumb carb.

[ganshert]

Originally Posted by RideFreak

This is a carburator not FI, probably a better one than stock but no getting around it, still a dumb carb.

I understand that it's not FI, the quoted line is from their website.

[RideFreak]

Originally Posted by ganshert

I understand that it's not FI, the quoted line is from their website.

Ok, no getting around it, the carb works. Personally $775 is allot of money to replace something that works as intended pretty darn well.

The problem I see is will this company be around 4 years from now, will parts be available if needed? Look at the Eldebrock quicksilver situation, no support, manufacturer sold all the parts off. Some folks are literally tossing the carbs for lack of an accel pump kit.

[ganshert]

Originally Posted by RideFreak

Ok, no getting around it, the carb works. Personally $775 is allot of money to replace something that works as intended pretty darn well.

The problem I see is will this company be around 4 years from now, will parts be available if needed? Look at the Eldebrock quicksilver situation, no support, manufacturer sold all the parts off. Some folks are literally tossing the carbs for lack of an accel pump kit.

agree

The carb works great but eventually we'll get something that works even better. The early adopters buy these types of products and then eventually the product evolves and someday we've got direct injection.

I won't be buying one. If it was real FI and <$1000 I'd do it because I'm a technology whore

[enduro-ince]

Supposedly they will be coming out with a cast version this winter for around $400. I'll get to see how the current version performs first hand on a ride tomorrow, and its supposed to be really hard technical terrain. I'm curious.

[RideFreak]

Originally Posted by enduro-ince

Supposedly they will be coming out with a cast version this winter for around $400. I'll get to see how it performs first hand on a ride tomorrow, and its supposed to be really hard technical terrain. I'm curious.

$775 is the cast version from what I understand, looks they are accepting preorders right now for the next run. He (smartcarb) originally said they were shooting for $400 plus machining? I never saw what the original carb cost but $775 seems steep, I might be wrong on that price point though.

I read full thread up to a couple months ago and while it's an improvment in the area's mentioned, it didn't strike me as a night and day diff, esp for our use (knarly terrain). Crisper running is mentioned, my impression from reading that thread was the majority of the gains were to be had by the guys who use the upper 1/2 of the throttle. While I sometimes do that kinda riding it's nowhere near the majority of my use, $400 sees somewhat reasonable and inline with the gains, $775 doesn't but that's just me.

If I'm going to spend $800 bucks on the 300 it's be for a 6 speed or an upgrade to the later version bike that sports the extra gear. If I allready had that gearbox the carb might appeal to me more.

I still say the SXS head is the best bang for the buck for our use on the 300.

[Gordy]

Originally Posted by enduro-ince

and its supposed to be really hard technical terrain.

Of course it is!

[YOGOI]

Originally Posted by thump_co

What if it's the shiniest thing on my bike?


YOGOI - what don't you like about it? I haven't fitted mine yet. It seems tough, but I'm concerned it won't have enough coverage for sideways laydowns.

Ya, the side coverage isn't were I would like it (doesn't cover clutch cover).
The left side is touching the starter (I have the easy button).
It doesn't go on and off as easy as I would like.

I'm being picky, but I think the stock skidded has what I like. Stronger plastic would be nice on the stocker though.

[Wannabeeuro]

I hope that one of you guys buys the fancy carb so that I can try it sometime back to back against my 300. I just can't imagine that my bike could run any better than it does right now except maybe pull harder when it's wide open the few times a year that I ride it on a track but I bet I could remedy that with a power valve adjustment.

[thump_co]

Originally Posted by enduro-ince

So who here is gonna try out the "smartcarb" Poor mans FI!! A buddy of mine from here with an 2012 xc has had one on his bike for a few weeks now, seems to work pretty flawlessly according to him. Theres a big thread over on KTM talk about it.

The guy parked next to me at EX had one on his GG 300. I asked him about it and his response was something along the line of "fine". I don't recall a glowing endorsement to go drop $700.

[enduro-ince]

Originally Posted by Gordy

Of course it is!

Ok,... it wasn't.

I need my man Tony G back in the loop, shit just isn't the same with out him..

He understands my needs.

The smart carb seemed to work well. But like whats already been stated its quit a chunk of change to spend just to avoid changing jets.

In other news I found out an inch long rivet works well for when your clutch piston plunger breaks in half on the trail. Thank dog for litterbugs!