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Old 06-30-2014, 06:44 PM   #1
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Hard time getting GS up on center stand

I have a very hard time getting my (new to me) 05 GS up on to the center stand. I have to lean the whole bike up on one side of the stand to even do it. And that kinda spooks me. Otherwise I need another person to help from the rear.

I'm about 6ft and 205#, and average build. So I doubt it's a size/strength issue.

Is this normal? or am I just doing it wrong??
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:48 PM   #2
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It's the 05 GS. They changed the center stand in 06 making it much easier to lift. Not sure if you can retrofit an 06 center stand to yours though.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:53 PM   #3
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This. The center stand geometry was all horribly wrong on the '05.

When we used to service my buddy's '05, we'd roll the rear wheel up on a 2x4 and then deploy the stand.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:56 PM   #4
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It's the 05 GS. They changed the center stand in 06 making it much easier to lift. Not sure if you can retrofit an 06 center stand to yours though.
This. Someone will probably correct me but I think they went as far as to change the mounting points / fulcrum altogether on the '06 and up... so no retrofit.

The '05 is exceptionally difficult to get up on the center stand, compared to other models and years, but here's the trick:

Instead of pulling the bike up, push the center stand *down* with your leg/food, pushing it away from your hand (which is moving up and to the rear). You have more strength in your leg and thigh, so use those muscles and the fulcrum created by the center stand to rock it up... your hand pulling up on the frame is just there to control it's ascent and give a point opposite the center stand for the geometry to work.

It's not dissimilar to loading a pistol, you're not so much pulling the slide *back* as you are pushing the frame forward. (if that makes any sense)

With my loaded '05 I can get it up, but I usually have to heave-hoe it up... and it's still so difficult that I almost never do it (even though I've done it most of the time on past models, my R1150R just kind of floated up onto the thing).
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:33 PM   #5
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Tips discovered from using Legal Speeding's PARK 'n MOVE

REMOVE anything weighty that you have in your TOP CASE...if you have one and are carrying tools, luggage, etc.

You're having to LIFT that weight, as well when you try to LIFT the bike onto the center stand.

You might also try REMOVING ALL CASES (side and top) from the bike to reduce weight.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:36 PM   #6
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You guys are so full of ****!

I have a 2005 with the u-shaped center-stand ... easy as pie, fully loaded and I weigh 165 with my gear on ... maybe 170 including boots. I have even done it wearing flip-flops and fully loaded, with Jesse's and without a lift handle!

It's not size/strength, it's technique!

1) place bike on side stand
2) rock bike up until both feet of center stand touch
3) put right hand on luggage rack
4) put left hand on handle bar
5) put right foot on center stand
6) stand, putting all weight on right foot
7) while standing and at same time, pull up with right hand
8) left hand only serves to steady/balance the bike.

It really is quite easy ... I'm practicing how to get it on the center stand without demounting ... now that's hard.

Good luck.
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Old 06-30-2014, 10:33 PM   #7
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1) place bike on side stand
2) rock bike up until both feet of center stand touch
3) put right hand on luggage rack
4) put left hand on handle bar
5) put right foot on center stand
6) stand, putting all weight on right foot
7) while standing and at same time, pull up with right hand
8) left hand only serves to steady/balance the bike.

Good luck.
This is almost exactly how I was taught to put a bike on its centre stand in my driving lessons. Since then, there is no bike I cannot get on the centre stand. The only difference is that I don't use the sidestand, but balance the bike while pushing down the centre stand and then move the bike from side to side to find that spot where both feet of the stand are touching the ground. Then grip the luggage rack (some bikes have special grips for this) and with a combined effort of moving your right hand and your right foot from each other you put your weight on the centre stand and extend your leg.

Never try to you lift your bike up onto the stand, some 80-90% of all the force comes from your leg.

That being said, some bikes are more of a b*tch than others.
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:22 AM   #8
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You guys are so full of ****!

I have a 2005 with the u-shaped center-stand ... easy as pie, fully loaded and I weigh 165 with my gear on ... maybe 170 including boots. I have even done it wearing flip-flops and fully loaded, with Jesse's and without a lift handle!

It's not size/strength, it's technique!

1) place bike on side stand
2) rock bike up until both feet of center stand touch
3) put right hand on luggage rack
4) put left hand on handle bar
5) put right foot on center stand
6) stand, putting all weight on right foot
7) while standing and at same time, pull up with right hand
8) left hand only serves to steady/balance the bike.

It really is quite easy ... I'm practicing how to get it on the center stand without demounting ... now that's hard.

Good luck.
This is how I've always do it Why spend the effort pulling when you can let your weight to the work.
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:30 AM   #9
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You're having to LIFT that weight, as well when you try to LIFT the bike onto the center stand.
You shouldn't have to lift anything to get the bike on the stand. Your foot gets the stand to do all the lifting, your hands are just there to pull the back backwards (not upwards).
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:52 AM   #10
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I have a very hard time getting my (new to me) 05 GS up on to the center stand. I have to lean the whole bike up on one side of the stand to even do it. And that kinda spooks me. Otherwise I need another person to help from the rear.

I'm about 6ft and 205#, and average build. So I doubt it's a size/strength issue.

Is this normal? or am I just doing it wrong??
Aside from the already mentioned known center stand geometry issues with the 05 model is your bike's suspension lowered? That would definitely contribute to making the bike harder to lift onto the center stand. My 01 R1150GS sits approximately 1" lower due to shorter shocks and it is about 50% more difficult to lift onto the center stand.
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:55 AM   #11
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. I have to lean the whole bike up on one side of the stand to even do it.
Do not do this. You'll distort the stand (very common), or break the bolt that screws into the stand pivot.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:07 AM   #12
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2005 here too. I find the technique mentioned above spot on except instead of grasping luggage rack, i grab the small frame cross-member just above the exhaust. Makes it much easier.
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:00 AM   #13
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Is it possible your bike has been lowered?
Doing so would make the center stand pretty much unusable.
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:40 AM   #14
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You guys are so full of ****!

I have a 2005 with the u-shaped center-stand ... easy as pie, fully loaded and I weigh 165 with my gear on ... maybe 170 including boots. I have even done it wearing flip-flops and fully loaded, with Jesse's and without a lift handle!

It's not size/strength, it's technique!

1) place bike on side stand
2) rock bike up until both feet of center stand touch
3) put right hand on luggage rack
4) put left hand on handle bar
5) put right foot on center stand
6) stand, putting all weight on right foot
7) while standing and at same time, pull up with right hand
8) left hand only serves to steady/balance the bike.

It really is quite easy ... I'm practicing how to get it on the center stand without demounting ... now that's hard.

Good luck.
Also easier if in N or pull the clutch while doing it... I always put on side stand first. If something goes wrong you can quickly rest the bike on the stand. Side stand out is better than no stand and bike start falling to one side. (If it makes sense)
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Old 07-01-2014, 08:54 AM   #15
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In the garage or elsewhere too, roll the bikes rear tire onto a flat piece of board. Say about 1" thick. Now the bike has less distance to rise. Easy!
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