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Old 03-16-2012, 03:45 PM   #16
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In the twisties...Interesting..

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With equal punctuality Ducati Multistrada 1200 S excites us only until they turn into corners "curvini". It is a very stable, powerful, incredibly fast, but is a little 'busy in mixed close, not particularly quick in changing direction and not even very effective at close curves.
The exact opposite of the KTM 990 SM-T, for example, exaggerated in the narrow and certainly not a reference to the quick.
The Kawasaki Versys seems rather a merger between the two: on the fast beautiful, beautiful Strait
Don't know exactly what they mean, but the last bit was interesting..The Versys is a KTMucati?
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:06 PM   #17
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In the twisties...Interesting..



Don't know exactly what they mean, but the last bit was interesting..The Versys is a KTMucati?
The Versys 1000 is the dark horse... I read a European test where they were neck to neck with your beloved SuperTen...
I will post a link of that.
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:31 PM   #18
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The Versys 1000 is the dark horse... I read a European test where they were neck to neck with your beloved SuperTen...
I will post a link of that.
Dirt and Street?

And by beloved I assume you mean "currently fit for purpose".
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:08 AM   #19
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Dirt and Street?

And by beloved I assume you mean "currently fit for purpose".
Just for you Graham... enjoy the reading with Google...
http://www.moto-station.com/article1...es-trails.html
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:45 AM   #20
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Sweet, must have been a great ride.

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Old 03-17-2012, 01:59 PM   #21
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Just for you Graham... enjoy the reading with Google...
http://www.moto-station.com/article1...es-trails.html
Thanks Ollie...

For a road test it's what I thought it would be. (well trying to get any info from the "translation") It pretty much agrees with that 9 way shootout.

Looks like the Kwaka is great value, at least in Australia. It should by all rights be worrying the GS since it is alleged 90% of GS riders are street only.

More expensive than the Strom here, so maybe their is hope for the big Strom foe a year or two. I would say Suzuki need to either drop the thing or do something with it. It won't last long with the competition hotting up like it is.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:03 PM   #22
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Sweet, must have been a great ride.


Good to see them doing a serious test.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:33 PM   #23
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The Versys 1000 is the dark horse... I read a European test where they were neck to neck with your beloved SuperTen...
I will post a link of that.
I see the big Versys as the Strom competitor, so maybe in the riding, which is totally different than in ownership.

If I'm on the bike 2+ hours a day, I'll keep the Super-T shaft drive and 26,000 mile valve checks. The traction control & ABS are great for my day-in / day-out commuting when it starts to rain and the streets are oily, too.

But then we all know it's too piggy to go off road. This is OFF road, right?

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Old 03-17-2012, 02:55 PM   #24
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But then we all know it's too piggy to go off road. This is OFF road, right?
Looks like a couple of feet OFF.

The test was at least comprehensive and contained most of the conditions that I require, so is relevant in the future if I ever get sick of the S10, but the best thing I see is the variety available. Should find most people who are looking at this size bike finding something almost perfect for them.

And I assume from all the product research talking about "mostly road" that the amount of "mostly road" bikes here is a good thing. But what the mostly road folk seem to really want is practical transport and these bikes are pretty practical.

I couldn't find much about the Triumph though, which is as odd.

But whether YAMAHA is happy with the niche' that requires dirt, tough and good road manners is yet to be seen.
One day they may just decide to detune a an R1 motor, jack it up and stick it up Mr KAWASAKIs exhaust pipe.

I really do not want to see a HP war break out in this class though, but that is just me.
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:42 PM   #25
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I know it's a stupid hang up - but no main stand on the Kwak - and no possibility of fitting one - is a deal breaker.
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:58 PM   #26
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I know it's a stupid hang up - but no main stand on the Kwak - and no possibility of fitting one - is a deal breaker.
Not even the aftermarket?
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:53 PM   #27
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I really do not want to see a HP war break out in this class though, but that is just me.
I think it's already a brushfire war about to erupt in full-scale conflict.

Ducati, Triumph, and soon Aprilia are all north of 130. Honda and Kawasaki are not far off (and really only a camshaft and reflash from being there). And the revamped GS "wethead" will be in that territory as well. Yamaha may be forced to escalate with the S10 refresh, and we haven't seen the Suzuki or KTM updates yet but it's a sure bet they're going to be in the 120+ range.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:41 PM   #28
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I think it's already a brushfire war about to erupt in full-scale conflict.

Ducati, Triumph, and soon Aprilia are all north of 130. Honda and Kawasaki are not far off (and really only a camshaft and reflash from being there). And the revamped GS "wethead" will be in that territory as well. Yamaha may be forced to escalate with the S10 refresh, and we haven't seen the Suzuki or KTM updates yet but it's a sure bet they're going to be in the 120+ range.
Well, I'll keep my old Series 1 S10 for a while then

Very good to lots of options for the spec sheet shoppers.
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:38 PM   #29
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Dirt and Street?

And by beloved I assume you mean "currently fit for purpose".
Isn't that what love is all about?
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Isn't that what love is all about?
Not really, some people seem to get a bit carried away I think.
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