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Old 02-18-2013, 04:42 PM   #3721
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First Aid class

Since our little First Aid class didn't quite work out quite like I had hoped I found a different one which looks better....but 2 days long. The current one is booked but there appears to be a couple more to be offered in the not too distant future in the local area.
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Description: REI and the Wilderness Medicine Institute of the NOLS offer a comprehensive two day course that will teach you the wilderness medicine skills you need to recreate with confidence in the backcountry. From the Patient Assessment System through traumatic, medical, and environmental emergencies, you'll experience a wide variety of topics designed to prepare you to act if an accident occurs. This is a 16 hour course over two days. The course begins at 9am each day and runs through 6pm, with a 1-hour break midday. Minimum age is 16 years old. You will have both classroom time and hands on practice scenarios. Practice scenarios may take place outside in various weather conditions; be prepared for inclement weather. No prerequisites required. Successful completion results in a Wilderness Medicine Institute of NOLS Wilderness First Aid certification. This course may be used to recertify Wilderness First Responder, Wilderness Advanced First Aid and Wilderness EMT (wilderness portion only) certifications if you hold a current or grace year WMI certification. Participants using the WFA to recertify their WFR need to pass both a written and a practical test.

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Learn how to administer first aid in a wilderness context. Topics include: the Patient Assessment System
creating evacuation plans and wilderness emergency procedures
spinal cord injuries
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wilderness wound management
athletic injuries
fracture management
dislocations
cold injuries
heat injuries
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and anaphylaxis.

Duration: 2.0 days
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:56 PM   #3722
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:08 PM   #3723
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:13 PM   #3724
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Dana doesn't look too happy about your dirty bike being in her garage.
Yeah...that's probably going to hurt me later..
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:41 PM   #3725
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So in an effort to get the DRZ suspension set up properly I did what anyone else would do....

I loaded the bike in the truck and took it to Bruce's

We got the baseline "Race Sag" measured...about 127mm...well over the recommended 90mm.

So the rear spring preload go adjusted to about it's max setting (looks like I'm going to need a slightly stronger spring)
and got the Race Sag adjusted to about 95.25mm
Where was your body when you measured the rear sag? I always slide forward to "nuts to the gas cap" because that's where you want to be turning and that's where the sag really matters. Then you can slide back some on the saddle in sand and the likes to stabilize the bike by increasing the head tube angle effectively.

Also, what was the static sag and front static and race sag?
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:04 AM   #3726
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Where was your body when you measured the rear sag? I always slide forward to "nuts to the gas cap" because that's where you want to be turning and that's where the sag really matters. Then you can slide back some on the saddle in sand and the likes to stabilize the bike by increasing the head tube angle effectively.

Also, what was the static sag and front static and race sag?
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:23 AM   #3727
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:06 AM   #3728
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I'm not sure if the smiley is over my expression or my questions so I'll clarify.

Sag setting basically is a control over front trail which determines how quickly the motorcycle wants to turn / versus stability.

The why you would alter explanation on this page isn't that great but it's a good over view of things that can effect trail.
http://bikearama.com/theory/motorcyc...ail-explained/

When turning you always want to weight the front tire to give it traction. So when you come out of standing to sit down you should set on the very very front part of the saddle. What I tell myself when I start getting tired and the bike stops turning is "nuts to the gas cap" I'm basically trying to set on the gas cap.

Sense rear sag effects trail which determines allot to do with how the bike turns I like measuring it in a repeatable position the emulates when it matters most. I got this from Drew at WER suspension and it's made it allot more consistent versus standing up and the bike seems to handle better to boot you'll also find you can get away with lighter springs than you can with other means of measurement which is nice for the woods riding around here. The race-tech calculator tells you to buy springs at least 1 rate if not 2 rates to stiff imho. The recommendations made the drz pretty harsh for the riding we have around here. Probably would have been nice for the desert where you're hitting stuff going faster.

Static sag is the measurement with just the weight of the bike on it changing the spring and preload lets you try and get both numbers correct.

To much preload and not enough spring rate you'll find the bike is good from a race sag standpoint but the static sag is not enough because the additional preload on the spring is holding the bike higher in the stroke.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:31 AM   #3729
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Renazco has been located... sorta. The mailing labels fell off. Good thing the tracking label was still attached. The postal service will get it back to the sender and he'll re-label it and get it back out in the mail. Hopefully one more week and I'll have it.

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Old 02-19-2013, 08:34 AM   #3730
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Crofrog...

when's the suspension workshop?
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:37 AM   #3731
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Crofrog...

when's the suspension workshop?

I'm just a nerd who likes to play with suspension, but we could probably all get together and check and set sag. Figure out if different springs are needed. See where the forks are in the triple clamps. All the easy stuff.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:39 AM   #3732
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That certainly makes sense....We did check the static sag as well. I'll have to double check those numbers when I get home.

All adjustments were based with the rider/bike measurements with of me standing on the pegs.

So I'm guessing I might be a bit too stiff now...
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:17 AM   #3733
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I'm just a nerd who likes to play with suspension, but we could probably all get together and check and set sag. Figure out if different springs are needed. See where the forks are in the triple clamps. All the easy stuff.
That's perfect, 'cause I'm just an idiot that doesn't know shit about suspension... and every now and then I play around with it... and get myself into 'predicaments'.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:37 AM   #3734
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All I know is the older I get the more my parts tend to sag. At this rate in just a few years I'll look like some National Geographic photo.

I had my KLR shocks and front forks set up by Rick at Cogent Dynamics but I'm thinking they probably need some more adjustment along.

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Old 02-19-2013, 02:11 PM   #3735
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Reminder...T-7 shopping days left to redeem your 30% off coupon for BMW parts. It looks like a certain BMW store in Fredericksburg is honoring "accessories and apparel" to mean anything BMW part numbered. Off to buy that spare stator (that Bruce thinks I won't ever need... )
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