2013 Dakar Pre-Event Discussion

[barrier]

Originally Posted by wilkinsonk

Last year yes, but this year the Gas Gas crew will be riding home-grown rally bikes. No more rebadged WR450s.

Still pretty sure it is a Yamaha engine!

[doyle]

Originally Posted by barrier

Still pretty sure it is a Yamaha engine!

Yes, Yamaha engine.

[Strong Bad]

Originally Posted by tHEtREV

SNIP.....

Someone else also pointed out that RG comes from a Nascar background where allegedly getting around rules like restrictors etc and finding new ways to interpret the rules is just part of the racing (at least I think thats what they said, I don't know much about car racing). ...SNIP.....

Robby's background is off-road racing. He raced open wheel Indy cars when he first started racing pavement. He happened to race NASCAR as a source of income to pay for his off-road racing. This year he is all but out of NASCAR.

My sources from inside the VW bivaouc said that VW & BMW had both known that Robby's car was not legal and were simply waiting for him to actually be a threat before blowing the whistle on him.

[wilkinsonk]

Originally Posted by barrier

Still pretty sure it is a Yamaha engine!

And here I was under the impression that it was all Gas Gas this year. I'll be damned if that isn't the clutch side of a Yamaha engine.

[amazing ricardo]

Originally Posted by Strong Bad

My sources from inside the VW bivaouc said that VW & BMW had both known that Robby's car was not legal and were simply waiting for him to actually be a threat before blowing the whistle on him.

my sources say, even the ASO knew about RG's 'system' (yes it was tech inspected, and identified). nobody took it seriously until, like strong bad pointed out, that RG became a viable 'treat'.. then the whistles blew..

did it actually boost performance? i can only say, if it didn't, why do it that way...

[tHEtREV]

Originally Posted by Strong Bad

Robby's background is off-road racing. He raced open wheel Indy cars when he first started racing pavement. He happened to race NASCAR as a source of income to pay for his off-road racing. This year he is all but out of NASCAR.

My sources from inside the VW bivaouc said that VW & BMW had both known that Robby's car was not legal and were simply waiting for him to actually be a threat before blowing the whistle on him.

Ok, I may have misquoted, but I was running of memory from a year ago when I was trying to take in a lot if information (I was reading the entire F5 thread) so my quotes wouldn't be 100% accurate.

Some one said something about him racing NASCAR and rule bending being a way of life there.

I know nothing of NASCAR, and they may all be boy scouts and follow the rules to the letter, but it is what I remember them saying.

I was going to ask why VW would give a shit because they didn't race last year, but then I remembered RG said he used the same setup last year.

[pebble35]

Originally Posted by wilkinsonk

And here I was under the impression that it was all Gas Gas this year. I'll be damned if that isn't the clutch side of a Yamaha engine.

This was next to the GasGas at the Milan bike show. No mention of Yamaha .........




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[Strong Bad]

Originally Posted by tHEtREV

Ok, I may have misquoted, but I was running of memory from a year ago when I was trying to take in a lot if information (I was reading the entire F5 thread) so my quotes wouldn't be 100% accurate.

Some one said something about him racing NASCAR and rule bending being a way of life there.

I know nothing of NASCAR, and they may all be boy scouts and follow the rules to the letter, but it is what I remember them saying.

I was going to ask why VW would give a shit because they didn't race last year, but then I remembered RG said he used the same setup last year.

Rule bending IS a way of life in NASCRAP. Although Robby has been in NASCRAP for a while, he's never really been accepted into the "good ole boy" circles that is NASCRAP.

Robby also knew that others were waiting to protest. His attitude is such that he ALWAYS thinks he is going to win at everything including protests and lawsuits.

[Myway]

[Dread Pendragon]

Rallying: Dakar rapped over 20 million year fossil damage

"Palaeontologists have warned that the Dakar Rally, which will thunder through Peru and Chile next month, poses a serious risk to whale and dolphin fossils dating back more than 20 million years."

[garfey]

Originally Posted by Dread Pendragon

Rallying: Dakar rapped over 20 million year fossil damage

"Palaeontologists have warned that the Dakar Rally, which will thunder through Peru and Chile next month, poses a serious risk to whale and dolphin fossils dating back more than 20 million years."

Somehow I can't get too worked up over fossils . . . or paleontologists.

[HogWild]

I don't think anyone would run them over on porpoise.

[explodingmouse]

That comment has me floundering.

[Stagehand]

whale of an issue, though.

[Indo2002]

Originally Posted by amazing ricardo

my sources say, even the ASO knew about RG's 'system' (yes it was tech inspected, and identified). nobody took it seriously until, like strong bad pointed out, that RG became a viable 'treat'.. then the whistles blew..

did it actually boost performance? i can only say, if it didn't, why do it that way...

It was a tyre deflation system, the vacuum is higher downstream of the intake restrictor.