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Old 01-01-2012, 08:56 AM   #211
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In this situation just leave it in the "Blue" position
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I do have a question about the switch.

It's not a problem now but in the warmer weather as I start out on a ride it maybe below 85, or even riding in the hill towns the temp may change from higher elevation to lower elevation, so the temp can vary from below 85 to over 85 rapidly, do I have to stop and flick the switch every time the temp goes up and down over 85 ?

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Old 01-01-2012, 02:52 PM   #212
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So if it is over 85 degrees, leave it on red, if below place it on blue? I now understand what it is doing, but can you tell me practically how/when to use what setting? Also, if I am using the wrong setting, who will the bike act/manifest this problem?


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Good question to go over again.....

Blue position- this setting it tells the ECU that the air tempature is 36 deg cooler than it is. The ECU enriches the fuel (on increase throttle movement and decrease throttle movement only)

Red position- this setting it tells the ECU that the air tempature is 18 deg cooler than it is. The ECU enriches the fuel (on throttle movement only)
Less enrichment is needed when air temperature is above 85 deg F.


Steady state throttle- the O2 sensor controls enrichment!
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:10 PM   #213
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took my second ride today after installing the power controller and i'm still loving it.
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Old 01-01-2012, 07:06 PM   #214
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Great day for a ride in Western Massachusetts today.

I was out for about 2 hours and the controller is amazing. I was looking for a steep gravel road that I always have to feather the crap out of the clutch to have control going up. Today it was muddy and slippery but with the controller I was able to do a slow climb in 1st and second without all the feathering. It was very smooth.

I have a little popping with decelerating and down shifting but I would say it was reduced by about 85%. I also have the Leo Vance carbon fiber slip on. The popping never bothered me, I kind of liked it.
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Old 01-01-2012, 07:29 PM   #215
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Great day for a ride in Western Massachusetts today.

I was out for about 2 hours and the controller is amazing. I was looking for a steep gravel road that I always have to feather the crap out of the clutch to have control going up. Today it was muddy and slippery but with the controller I was able to do a slow climb in 1st and second without all the feathering. It was very smooth.

I have a little popping with decelerating and down shifting but I would say it was reduced by about 85%. I also have the Leo Vance carbon fiber slip on. The popping never bothered me, I kind of liked it.

My bike is a 2010
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Old 01-01-2012, 07:37 PM   #216
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Over 85 Deg F? set on red
Under 85 Deg F? set on blue

Left on Blue....with outside air temp 90 deg F- you now have a "Accelerator Plug" or a "Booster Plug" .... IMO over compensation..... this level of enrichment not needed.

Left on Red... with outside air temp 50 deg F - the throttle response will be a little less jerky but not as bad as factory setting.



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So if it is over 85 degrees, leave it on red, if below place it on blue? I now understand what it is doing, but can you tell me practically how/when to use what setting? Also, if I am using the wrong setting, who will the bike act/manifest this problem?
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:45 AM   #217
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Can anyone explain to a F8 newbie what this power controller exactly does? And does it work on 2011 European models? Pricing and shipment to Europe? Whats the effect on overall power?

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Old 01-02-2012, 06:47 AM   #218
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Perfect

Perfect, thank you.

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Over 85 Deg F? set on red
Under 85 Deg F? set on blue

Left on Blue....with outside air temp 90 deg F- you now have a "Accelerator Plug" or a "Booster Plug" .... IMO over compensation..... this level of enrichment not needed.

Left on Red... with outside air temp 50 deg F - the throttle response will be a little less jerky but not as bad as factory setting.
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Old 01-02-2012, 10:00 AM   #219
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All these devices work on the same principle but first you need to know how the BMW ECU works. Booster plug long version has a decent explanation:http://www.boosterplug.com/shop/cms-24.html.

Next there are hundreds of pages of discussion on all three. Go to the twins sticky thread titled "'thread index and links" and scroll down to the appropriate threads.

The short version is the ECU has the ability to change fuel mixture to address riding conditions. That change is directed by electrical current from sensors located on various componants of the bike.

The devices change the current from the air temp sensor to cause it to direct the ECU to supply a richer air fuel mixture then it otherwise would.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:29 PM   #220
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grab a beer, pull up a chair, and read up!

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=709574

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Can anyone explain to a F8 newbie what this power controller exactly does? And does it work on 2011 European models? Pricing and shipment to Europe? Whats the effect on overall power?

Many thanks
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:37 AM   #221
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Thanks guys, took me a while to read all that stuff. Got a severe headache now
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:19 AM   #222
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Ordered mine yesterday... at least I think I did. Either that or some lucky guy got my paypal money.

My solution to the snatchy throttle for off road was to run a front sprocket 1 tooth smaller and do most of the technical riding in 2nd gear and use 1st for crawling. Worked just great although you do lose some top end and fuel efficiency on the road and I switch the sprocket back for super long road trips.

It would be great if this was a viable solution to switching sprockets.

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Old 01-03-2012, 10:15 AM   #223
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Got it! going in the mail tonight!

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Ordered mine yesterday... at least I think I did. Either that or some lucky guy got my paypal money.

My solution to the snatchy throttle for off road was to run a front sprocket 1 tooth smaller and do most of the technical riding in 2nd gear and use 1st for crawling. Worked just great although you do lose some top end and fuel efficiency on the road and I switch the sprocket back for super long road trips.

It would be great if this was a viable solution to switching sprockets.

cheers,
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:09 PM   #224
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your welcome.... all orders shipped .. still have a few in stock!!


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Old 01-10-2012, 02:44 AM   #225
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Got it in the mail today!

Just got the PC in the mail today. Install in the morning. I'll take the bike for a spin around the town for a quick warm up for something to compare the install of the PC to. Looking forward to this. So is the wife (my pillion).

Just a quick Q&A regarding install. I see where all the wiring harness goes but where would recommend I mount, what I assume is an ambient air temp sensor, the copper tipped thingy?

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PS. even with the mayhem of holiday shipping mail backups and all, your box of goodies arrived in just eight days. Sweet!!
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