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Old 02-27-2005, 08:19 PM   #1
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DL650 VS. F650 stasts

Just happened to have a cople of flyers around.


Dry weight:
DL650: 418#
F650: 426#
Ground Clearance:
DL650: 6.5 inches
F650: 5.1 inches
Transmission:
DL650: 6 speed
F650: 5 speed
The DL has twin front brake rotors, a seamless FI system, it's narrower, carries more fule, generates more horse power, costs thousands of dollars less and yet the F650 still manages to look 10 times better than the DL!


(all stats are for the GS version of the F650. Dakar stats not published in promotional literature at hand)
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:08 PM   #2
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F vs. V

Well, the F650 also has that little spinning propeller on it... and I think it has more suspension travel. And available ABS.

That being said, I'll take the V strom, no question.

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Old 02-28-2005, 01:18 PM   #3
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That SV 650 engine Is a kick in the PANTS

Excellent bang for the buck
Valve maint interval 15,000 miles

What is it on the F
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:26 PM   #4
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The Rotax single on the BMW is bulletproof IMO and easy to maintain too. In the end it's just a single though and I like the DL650 engine a lot better. My $.02
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:29 PM   #5
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I've taken my F650 onto wet leaves and through loose surface that riding buddies on twins have a tough time handling due to wheel spin. The single has the advantage there.
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:50 PM   #6
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Trust me
That SV 650 engine Is a kick in the PANTS

Excellent bang for the buck
Valve maint interval 15,000 miles

What is it on the F
Every 6k for valve inspection on the F650. Shim over bucket, and a PITA if you have to pull the cams for shim changing. OTOH, you can take it to the dealer every 6k for service and pay around $300.

I have an 03 F650 Dakar and while I believe it is capable of going places that a DL650 could never do, it's not a cheap bike to own.
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:31 PM   #7
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I have owned them both and they are both good bikes.

When comparing the specs, bear in mind that the fuel capacity of the Strom is about 6 gallons IIRC and that the tank is in the conventional location. You WILL notice it when the tank is full.

I kept the BMW for a while after selling the Strom. I felt that it was a more versatile bike. I felt much more comfortable taking it off pavement than I did the Strom, but in the end it also was too heavy and expensive for where I was riding and my skill level.

The engine, comfort, handling and economy of the Strom is tough to beat.
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Old 02-28-2005, 07:58 PM   #8
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I don't think either one is good off-road and I would never take the DL650 beyond a fire road. To me the V-Strom is just an excellent street bike that can do some limited off-road work. I keep seeing all these posts where folks want to make their DL650 more off-road worthy but I went the other route and turned it into more of a street bike. Where I live I have the luxury of having tons of great places close by to ride in the dirt. If I need my dirt fix I grab the KLX400. If I want to go for a ride on the street I take a ride on the DL650. I understand what each bike is good at and I don't try to make them cross their boundries.

me thinks it was Pink Floyd that did "a nice pair" not sure they were referring to motorcycles but that's mine.
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Old 02-28-2005, 09:01 PM   #9
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I don't think either one is good off-road and I would never take the DL650 beyond a fire road. To me the V-Strom is just an excellent street bike that can do some limited off-road work. I keep seeing all these posts where folks want to make their DL650 more off-road worthy but I went the other route and turned it into more of a street bike. Where I live I have the luxury of having tons of great places close by to ride in the dirt. If I need my dirt fix I grab the KLX400. If I want to go for a ride on the street I take a ride on the DL650. I understand what each bike is good at and I don't try to make them cross their boundries.

me thinks it was Pink Floyd that did "a nice pair" not sure they were referring to motorcycles but that's mine.
I have the same combination, but still did some work on the DL650 to make it better offroad because I want to ride it to the Yukon and to explore with it when I get there.

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Old 02-28-2005, 10:48 PM   #10
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I don't think either one is good off-road .
Compared to my CRF250, true, but after bashing around an 1100GS, the F's are downright comfy off-road. I've had two F's, old style and newer GS, and they were very capable off-road. But I wouldn't feel the same if I hadn't been exposed the "heavy" world of the bigger GS. The F's were pretty good on the highway with after-market screens. I've only been on a Strom on the road, and I liked it more than the F in that situation.
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Old 03-01-2005, 05:31 AM   #11
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four-up, do you like the DL650 better than the BMW 1150GS on the road?
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Old 03-01-2005, 08:17 AM   #12
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No. I've got an 1100, but I've ridden plenty of 1150s, which have some improvements for the highway (the 6th gear is a big one). I love the big GS on the highway, especially for longer trips. In general, I prefer a larger engine anyway on the highway.
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Old 03-01-2005, 05:01 PM   #13
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What was BMW thinking when they put a 4-gallon tank on the F650, anyway ???

That's what I was asking myself in Wyoming two years ago when my Dakar was struggling with mpg in the mid 40s with me and my gear !!! I was pi$$ed !!!

Sold it when I got home.

5-gallon should be a minimum, but an "adventure" bike should have six or seven, if you ask me...
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Old 03-02-2005, 12:40 PM   #14
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I am missing something?....why compare

a DL650 to a F650?...different animals.....how abotu comparing a bit mroe similar...a KLR650 and a F650?.....I checked em both out and the KLR was the obvious winner...unless you need more flash and lipstick and image.....?
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Old 03-02-2005, 01:41 PM   #15
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OK, here's the real truth:
IF BMW were smart enough to have OEM'd the DL650 and branded it as a BMW Dual Sport selling for $9,999 U.S., the Press would be hailing it as "the great breakthrough in motorcycling" and every article would be giving it a "9.5 on a 10-scale" rating, and raving about what a great value it is.

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