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Old 12-10-2014, 02:13 PM   #1
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Looks Like Honda is Dumping Non-ABS Forzas

Just a tidbit on '14 new Forzas - around here (Baltimore area) I've seen non-ABS Forzas for a grand discount ($4,599 plus fees). The same dealer had a Black Friday sale on a '13 PCX for $1, 724, they are now back up to $2,241 plus the usual fees.

A dealer in State College, PA has a new '14 Forza for $3,799 plus 149 freight & 149 setup (no mention of doc fees).
(http://www.trackntrail.net/pre_owned...rch&industry=1)

Methinks Honda is really pushing to get rid of current stock - good time to buy if it fits your needs.
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Old 12-10-2014, 02:21 PM   #2
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Old 12-10-2014, 02:53 PM   #3
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Out west you never find these deals.

I am looking at getting a Smax 155 for about the same price as the Forza.

Then again, the ease of maintenance is a huge factor in my purchasing. Still, that For a pricing is ridiculously tasty.
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Old 12-10-2014, 07:42 PM   #4
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There is one in CA for $3,988 and the place in State College, PA has dropped the price to $3,699.

http://www.cycletrader.com/FORZA----...3&vrsn=hybrid&
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Old 12-10-2014, 09:08 PM   #5
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There is one in CA for $3,988 and the place in State College, PA has dropped the price to $3,699.

http://www.cycletrader.com/FORZA----...3&vrsn=hybrid&
I called my Yamaha dealer today to get the ball rolling. That Forza in Simi Valley is damn tempting though.

I should be looking for a steal on a new BV350 too.
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Old 12-10-2014, 09:28 PM   #6
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Honda has no plans to dump the non ABS Forza. Western Honda in Scottsdale, AZ sells several times as many non ABS models as ABS ones. Non ABS models are priced at $4,781.00, ABS models are $500 more. But, this dealer does not charge Honda's $310 "destination" fee.

Not a scooter, but Apache is selling 2014 V-Star 250s for $2999.

V Star 250
MSRP $4,340.00*
Our Price $2,995.00*

I don't see any good deals on Japanese scooters. Western Honda still has new Silverwings for $2000 off MSRP. If only I were rich.

SYM and Kymco are where the scooter deals are. Pretty much everything is going OTD for under MSRP.
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Old 12-11-2014, 03:44 AM   #7
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Local dealer sold a couple of Forzas this year, that's it. The price of either has remained the same.

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Old 12-11-2014, 07:04 AM   #8
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I called my Yamaha dealer today to get the ball rolling. That Forza in Simi Valley is damn tempting though.

I should be looking for a steal on a new BV350 too.
There's a steal on a people gt300i in my garage
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Old 12-11-2014, 09:29 AM   #9
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Ya gotta love the dealers who have them priced at $5249 and say "Liquidation Sale!". Do they not think people can read?

On the other hand, a brand new Forza for $3,699 sounds like a screaming deal for those that want to buy new. I wonder how they are actually selling around the country? I've never seen one, but that means little.

I really would hate for the Hondas to not sell well- every other manufacturer is probably watching them as the canary in the coal mine to see if they survive before considering the expense of bringing in their own products.
I posted this totally unscientific data in another thread.
The local Kymco dealer sold 26 300cc scoots, DT and GTI, so far this year.
The local Honda dealer has sold 3 Forzas.

This is in a land that is littered with scooters of all kinds. We just don't see many honda scooters here. A few Burgmans and the occasional BV.

The Honda dealer was very direct to say he didn't care if he sold the one on the floor or not. He also said they can flip most lookers to a small cycle. Told me he's in the business of selling motorcycles.

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Old 12-11-2014, 11:12 AM   #10
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That may not be the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but it certainly ranks up there.

For someone to be in business and dismiss one whole segment of his customer base, when he should be embracing it and trying to build on it would leave me to believe the dealer deserves to get his a$$ handed to him by the competition. Maybe cycle sales are so good in JAX his attitude is justified....

Of course now that I say that, I admit my local Japanese PTW dealers may have exactly the same opinion and I wouldn't know. I avoid having conversations with any of them because frankly I don't foresee buying anything new from them.
Yep it's bullshit.
I first saw a problem when I was getting fantastic service on the Goldwing yet the reflex work would take forever and it always went back. Techs hated working on it and had no issue saying so.

It's a poor display that I think (hope) is a huge exception to how Honda dealers work. It does help explain the local Kymco dealers exceptional 150-300cc scooter sales.

I think the biggest issue is with the competition form scooter shops and the fact that Honda dealers well, don't deal customers look elsewhere down here.

But Japan's big three knows this. In the US most markets don't offer a viable "other choice" for scooters. So what little market there is they own.

and so it goes.

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Old 12-11-2014, 11:25 AM   #11
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This has been my experience when going into most Honda, Suzuki, and Yamaha dealers... the scooters don't get prime floor space, nor do the salespeople know much about them.

Somewhat understandable - if floor space is limited, you want to show off what makes you the most $$.

You have to be determined if you're gonna ride a scooter. I'm not shy about asking for what I want.

At one of the multi-brand dealers we visited when we were looking for our scoots, the sales guy couldn't figure out how to close the seat... instead of pushing down on it, he was slamming the hell out of it. My wife said, "Well, I sure don't want THAT one!"

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You have to be determined if you're gonna ride a scooter.

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No truer words my friend....

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Old 12-11-2014, 11:38 AM   #13
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Yeah, I just tried to buy that $3699 Forza. "Out of state, sorry" they said.

think I'll stick to my original plan of getting an Smax.

>We can't ship new Hondas, they must be picked up here in person. You could be here and do paper work and then it could be shipped by you but we can't just send a bike to you. If you can work anything out that we can help with let us know.
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Yeah, I just tried to buy that $3699 Forza. "Out of state, sorry" they said.

think I'll stick to my original plan of getting an Smax.

>We can't ship new Hondas, they must be picked up here in person. You could be here and do paper work and then it could be shipped by you but we can't just send a bike to you. If you can work anything out that we can help with let us know.
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Bullshit.
Computers, email, fax machines.............

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Old 12-11-2014, 02:35 PM   #15
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He was saying "can't" but he meant "won't".



Edit. Well, maybe they really can't.

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