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Old 04-09-2012, 06:42 PM   #1
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Kaiserslautern, Germany!

So, I'm getting ready to move to Kaiserslautern. Which bike do I bring and which do I sell here in the states before I go?

I've got a 2010 Triumph Tiger 1050 that I'm planning on taking with me for the roads.

I need to make a decision between my 2002 Honda CR250r 2-stroker and my 4 stroke 1999 Yamaha WR400f. I'm not a motocross track guy, I've always enjoyed riding trails and adventuring off the beaten path. What kind of dirt riding can I look forward to in that area? Are there any amateur clubs where I could join to improve my skills or even race enduros or hare scramble style races? Let me know, I can't wait for this adventure to start.
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:18 PM   #2
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Doc- Welcome! Unless you want to join a motorcross club or trailer your bikes out of Germany to ride offroad, leave the off-road bikes in the U.S.

Germany has the largest tree-hugger population in the world and off road ist verbotten! (Herman the German's favorite saying)

The Tiger will be great over here.

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So, I'm getting ready to move to Kaiserslautern. Which bike do I bring and which do I sell here in the states before I go?

I've got a 2010 Triumph Tiger 1050 that I'm planning on taking with me for the roads.

I need to make a decision between my 2002 Honda CR250r 2-stroker and my 4 stroke 1999 Yamaha WR400f. I'm not a motocross track guy, I've always enjoyed riding trails and adventuring off the beaten path. What kind of dirt riding can I look forward to in that area? Are there any amateur clubs where I could join to improve my skills or even race enduros or hare scramble style races? Let me know, I can't wait for this adventure to start.
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:21 AM   #3
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:37 AM   #4
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Oh no! Well the triumph will sure appreciate the attention.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:45 AM   #5
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Nothing to stop you buying a DS bike and heading off to France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Andorra or the UK if you want to go trailriding though.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:43 AM   #6
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:54 AM   #7
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Doc- Welcome! Unless you want to join a motorcross club or trailer your bikes out of Germany to ride offroad, leave the off-road bikes in the U.S.

Germany has the largest tree-hugger population in the world and off road ist verbotten! (Herman the German's favorite saying)

The Tiger will be great over here.
As a bit of consolation, you'll be about 100 miles from the Nurburgring, which your Tiger will greatly appreciate on Touristenfahrten Tagen.



and give you a chance to work on the unused tread on the sides of your tires (ME-Z6 pictured)

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Old 04-11-2012, 07:13 AM   #8
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Yes, that part I'm excited about! Though I'm still not much of a knee-dragger...
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:48 PM   #9
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Yes, that part I'm excited about! Though I'm still not much of a knee-dragger...
Don't need to be - it comes with the territory.

Here's a better pic of the squidmobile with the worn out tire:



You'll find yourself actually wishing for a straight stretch of road after a while
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:29 PM   #10
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Old 04-12-2012, 05:12 AM   #11
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Holy crap! What's that huge pile of white stuff??? Did I mention I'm coming from SOUTH Texas! I've lived in the North before, but it's been a while. So, is it "verboten" to ride off-road on private land?
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Old 04-12-2012, 05:47 AM   #12
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Holy crap! What's that huge pile of white stuff???
Picture wasn't taken near Kaiserslautern, but perhaps in the Swiss Alps.
But we do know this kind of stuff ...
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So, is it "verboten" to ride off-road on private land?
Depends on the land owner (and possible further restrictions if in natural reserve parc etc.).
For public access: "Vehicles must use the road surface". (1) http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stvo/__2.html
Obviously off-road isn't on the road ...
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Old 04-12-2012, 06:29 AM   #13
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Holy crap! What's that huge pile of white stuff???
We call it "Schnee" here :)

It's not too bad in the Kaiserslautern Area, actually. You'll have it a week or two in winter, then it goes away, might come back once or twice. Hardly ever more than 8 inches. Roads are always cleaned quickly and heavily salted.

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Did I mention I'm coming from SOUTH Texas! [...] So, is it "verboten" to ride off-road on private land?
Germany, unlike Texas, is pretty crowded. Most people, if they own land at all, will own about a tenth of an acre - just enough for a house and a small garden. Farmers will own more, but they won't let you ride on their property.

Driving/riding on anything that doesn't look like it's built for motorized vehicles (i.e. it has grass in the middle) is forbidden and also usually has a corrosponding sign. Riding there is very much frowned upon by pedestrians, foresters, hunters and so on - they're even likely to call the police.

So if you want to do off road riding find a motor sport club with a dirt track or go over the border to France - things are much more relaxed there.

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Old 04-12-2012, 07:31 AM   #14
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Ok. I'll probably bring the WR, it's at least plated for the streets. Then on the rare occasions I'll take it to the track or out to another location.

What are the Motorsport clubs like?
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:22 AM   #15
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Bring them all....evade police hunts....if they stop you....well don't
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