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Old 04-15-2012, 04:43 AM   #16
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Picture wasn't taken near Kaiserslautern, but perhaps in the Swiss Alps.
But we do know this kind of stuff ...
Very good!

July 5th, 2010 on the St. Gottard Pass in Switzerland
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:48 PM   #17
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Me too....

Ok, I am wrestling with the nearly exact dilemma.

Bringing the BMW F800GS, however I will be replacing the knobbies with some more street focused rubber. I also have a Street legal WR450. I am considering making it a full blown supermoto if I bring it over. Here is the question, What is required to be street legal in Germany for a bike with dirt bike roots. I have blinkers front and rear, head light with high and low beam, one mirror, brake and tail lights, and road tires. Will it pass the test to get a German license plate?
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:58 AM   #18
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Quite complicated: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/...01:0044:EN:PDF

Rule of thump: 2 mirrors with at least 60cm² each. Lights only in white (front), yellow (indicators) and red (tail). That's sufficient for our police.
If you want an EU registration for your bike, ask a local "TÜV" inspection engineer for details.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:04 AM   #19
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F800GS and the 450?!?!? Just haaad to upstage me in my own thread, didn't ya? ;0)

When are you headed over there, and to what part?
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:02 AM   #20
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No upstaging, I am sure there are guys out there who would go for your set up. The 250 2 stroke is a lot of fun and I know people who have traded the F800 for the Tiger.

I will be coming to Erlangen, Germany this summer if it all comes together with the Job offer.


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F800GS and the 450?!?!? Just haaad to upstage me in my own thread, didn't ya? ;0)

When are you headed over there, and to what part?
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:31 AM   #21
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Cool! Don't get me wrong, I love my tiger! I have always wanted that BMW the though. Such a beautiful bike!!!
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:19 PM   #22
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Cool! Don't get me wrong, I love my tiger! I have always wanted that BMW the though. Such a beautiful bike!!!
If you have a Militray/GS/Contractor ID you can buy a BMW via Military sales from Uwe @ bmwmotorcycles.de

That's me in the Customers Gallery Banner
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:51 AM   #23
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Well, I sold my CR250 yesterday... Looks like it'll be the Tiger and the plated 400! Now I just have to take the MSF advanced course. I understand that is a big help in obtaining a license in Germany. Do I need to take it with each bike, or can I just do it the one time?
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Old 04-19-2012, 08:09 AM   #24
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You want a german mc driving license?

For the practical examination you need a bike with >=44kW (>=60 hp), usually from the driving school, but if you can prove your own bike to be adequate, it's ok.
Point 2.2 in http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/fe...age_7_109.html

Some videos what to expect regarding basic technical skills:
http://www.bikers-school.de/grundfahraufgaben.html

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Old 04-19-2012, 08:33 AM   #25
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Well, I sold my CR250 yesterday... Looks like it'll be the Tiger and the plated 400! Now I just have to take the MSF advanced course. I understand that is a big help in obtaining a license in Germany. Do I need to take it with each bike, or can I just do it the one time?
Will you be under the SOFA?

If so make sure you have your M endorsement and MSF w/in the past 12 months.
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Old 04-19-2012, 08:52 AM   #26
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It's been a while since I was there, but even 30 yrs ago off-road was verbotten. Clubs are the only way.
If you've never driven in icy conditions, beware. Several of my coworkers that came from the southern states ended up in the ditch the first time they hit black ice. It's always damp in the winter and the roads are often slick/icy. And, it sometimes takes a long time to get US spec parts in Deutschland.
Photo-cop abounds. Tickets under 20km over used to be just warnings and paid on the spot. But, >20km over and stuff that isn't paid attention to in the US... Respect the polizei.
The roads are curvy and the drivers are generally much more skilled and disciplined than in the US. And bikers do some aggressive/crazy riding over there. Enjoy!
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:14 AM   #27
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I'm a bit of a safety-cat, so it'll be a while before I feel comfortable enough to do anything worthy of earning a ticket. Plus, I always ride ATGATT.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:52 PM   #28
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I'm a bit of a safety-cat, so it'll be a while before I feel comfortable enough to do anything worthy of earning a ticket..
Lets wait and see. There are some traps, i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_turn_on_red
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:13 PM   #29
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Hmm. Hope I don't become that guy who just sits on the lawful turn for however long it takes me to learn left from right!

Another question. Do I need to take the MSF Advanced Course with each bike? Or can I just take it on one?
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Old 04-23-2012, 12:48 AM   #30
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Hmm. Hope I don't become that guy who just sits on the lawful turn for however long it takes me to learn left from right!

Another question. Do I need to take the MSF Advanced Course with each bike? Or can I just take it on one?

Just one bike will do it.
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