Full-Synthetic 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil

[aiMhi]

Originally Posted by MacNoob

15W-50 the only available grade? My OldWing would kinda choke on that.

They have a 20W50 synthetic blend intended for ATV's but specialize in industrial solutions and wholesale in barrels mainly. This is a new market for Royal Mfg to sell in quart's.

[Big_John]

Originally Posted by MacNoob

15W-50 the only available grade? My OldWing would kinda choke on that.

I spoke with a company representative about a year ago regarding the available grades and he said there was nearly zero demand for 40wt. I bet as the Monarch label grows in the US (it is HUGE in South America), 40wt will become available.

It is widely accepted that one can move grades, one up.....or one down. If your bike calls for 40wt, then moving to 50wt is just fine. Remember that this oil is PAO synthetic and has tremendous flow properties....not like any normal 40wt convential motorcycle oil.

The difference between any 40wt I have had in my VStrom and Monarch 15w50 is not noticable in terms of feeling like it is sluggish. It just feels very smooth.

[NorCal Dog]

awww hell,, you hooked me up with an awesome fairing,, you might as well hook me up with a case of oil

pmt sent

D.

[ScramblerDavis]

Originally Posted by aiMhi

I dont have a test. Big John is going to have one done. Ill check with Royal to see if they have one handy but you want to see one from someone independent right?

If you want to run one I can ship you a couple quarts on my dime NP if you publish the results here.

In response to some of the questions on trhe Royal Oils, the 15/50 synthetic will perform with the best out there. There are even some motorcycle manufacturer brands that aren't as high performing as this one or some of the other private brands available. As far as using a 15/50 vs.a 20/50 or 10/40 or 10/50, the primary difference is the cold start flow characteristics depending also whether each one is a synthetic or pure conventional engine oil. I have 4 bikes and I have run this oil for three years in all and have had excellent results both in performance and smoothness of engine operation. I would put this oil up against any oil out there as to quality, additive protection, and viscosity shear stability as well as a strong antiwear package. They do not offer a 10/40 at this time but are onsidering it based on requests depending on volume use. The 20/50 semi-synthetic is formulated primarily for use in the big V-Twin engine configurations as well as the BMW requirements and some ATV/side-by-sides. I use the 15/50 full synthetic also in my BMW and it performs well as with my other bikes. This company sells truckloads to foreign users and have a major pizza company in Mexico that uses this oil exclusively for all their pizza delivery motorcycles.(hundreds!). Hope this helps!

[NorCal Dog]

^^^^^^^^^^ that about says it doesn't it,, thanks Scrambler for sharing your first hand experience with this product

& thanks Bern for the good deal

[doctor_big]

Will you ship to Canada? If so what would the cost be?

[aiMhi]

Originally Posted by doctor_big

Will you ship to Canada? If so what would the cost be?

Hi Dr - We will find out for you. PM your zip info to me.
Thanks for the interest.

[MacNoob]

Originally Posted by MacNoob

15W-50 the only available grade? My OldWing would kinda choke on that.

I have to retract that statement. I'm used to using xW-40, but I rechecked the manual and it says xW-50 is fine for any temps above freezing (the only time I'm riding anyways).

[techforlife]

Originally Posted by aiMhi

Hi Dr - We will find out for you. PM your zip info to me.
Thanks for the interest.

Shipping to Canada would be cool..........


B

[aiMhi]

Originally Posted by techforlife

Shipping to Canada would be cool..........


B

For our friends fom Canuckistan

Shipping a 25LB box 13x10x10 to Canda is expensive.

E1C6M6 Moncton Canada $39 extra per case - UPS - $140 USPS - WTF!
M4M2L8 Toronto Canada $24 extra per case

Now if you have your own mailbox on the US side lemme know or if you have someone
with a pick-em-up coming state side we can try and figure something out ok.

[doctor_big]

UPS ground to Canada incurs boatloads of brokerage fees. I'm trying to get enough people interested to make it worth the 3hr round trip to Lewiston NY.

Do you have 4qt jugs? No need for the extra packaging of 1qt bottles.

Jason

[aiMhi]

Originally Posted by doctor_big

UPS ground to Canada incurs boatloads of brokerage fees. I'm trying to get enough people interested to make it worth the 3hr round trip to Lewiston NY.

Do you have 4qt jugs? No need for the extra packaging of 1qt bottles.

Jason

Hi Jason - I will find out for you today :)

[Kyle B]

I would like to see the same comparison tests that Amsoil publishes when their product is compared to other manufactures.
A ball bearing test to be more specific. The pricing looks good, but the specifications are very vague.

[aiMhi]

Originally Posted by Kyle B

I would like to see the same comparison tests that Amsoil publishes when their product is compared to other manufactures.
A ball bearing test to be more specific. The pricing looks good, but the specifications are very vague.

Hi Kyle B - I would like to address your concerns but let me know what is "very vague" about the product specifications as posted here and available on the Royal website?

The oil is a full synthetic oil with a PAO base, meets or exceed JASO MA 2 specifications and contains 1371ppm Zinc. Post your concerns and we can take it to Riverside Labs to answer, or you are welcome to contact them directly http://www.royalmfg.com/riversidelab.html if you want to have a molecular discussion .

Why even bother with a bearing test since they will also claim like every other manufacturer that their oil has been independently tested to be superior to the other since all oils have a "sweet spot" for performance and they can exploit that in their tests. These test typically dont show the real details such as the environmentals involved, the bearing surface types and other variables that can play into isolating their products "sweet spot". http://youtu.be/Ne7ayhPVVYY

In the last month I have tested my bike's "bearings" on a 500 mile Enduro (ADV Medano Boondoggle) and just Saturday on a 200 mile Enduro ( ADV BrekTrek) and my XR650R ran like a top and my temp's stayed at 178F with no auto fan kicking in. I have a manual Spal Fan that I never turned on, even on the 717 tight trails outside Woodland park. It's an XR and it started first time - every - time.

[Big_John]

In 3,000 miles this run of Monarch will be dumped and a sample sent off to Blackstone for a UOA. I will probably also send a second sample out out the bottle for a VOA....just to compare apples to apples with Blackstone.