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Old 05-20-2014, 04:48 PM   #1
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Salt Pilot sub-frame?

Hi guys,
Just wonder if any one has bought one of these custom subframes before?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Cafe-...-/171231148312

Thanks!
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:34 PM   #2
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Would not buy. There are so many questionable design choices; curved uprights, single sided top shock mounts, <- mounted on curved uprights, no cross brace... etc
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:54 PM   #3
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Would not buy. There are so many questionable design choices; curved uprights, single sided top shock mounts, <- mounted on curved uprights, no cross brace... etc
But if the bike isn't a racer, then how important are those issues?

I'm after something bolt on that I can attach myself. I've seen the Vonzeti items and those don't look much better.

Getting a fabricator to put something together won't be cheap either.
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:09 PM   #4
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Look how the factory did it. The top shock bolts are supported in two axis and from both sides. That one pictured is supported on one side only and welded to presumably thin wall tubing, in the middle of that tubing, and it's already BENT... What could possibly go wrong...? Racing or not, I see a lot of stress being placed on that brace and welds. Why not modify the stock one?
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:11 PM   #5
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Look how the factory did it. The top shock bolts are supported in two axis and from both sides. That one pictured is supported on one side only and welded to presumably thin wall tubing... Racing or not, I see a lot of stress being placed on that brace and welds.
Understood. But how much stress is going through the rear subframe? Isn't the main stress in the actual main bike frame?
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:17 PM   #6
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The triangles formed by the stock subframe supports the entire rear end of the bike through the shocks, big heavy final drive and all... True, they basically eliminated the need for it on the Monolever bikes, but added a big cast chunk to hold the shock...
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:19 PM   #7
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Understood. But how much stress is going through the rear subframe? Isn't the main stress in the actual main bike frame?
Where do you think the force on the shocks winds up?
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:27 PM   #8
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:54 PM   #9
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Cheers guys. Appreciate the feedback.

My quest for a new rear subframe continues!!! With all the bikes being built these days its a shame no one does a quality item. I'd pay my money on the spot!
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:04 PM   #10
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Someone posted up a picture of a bike using this setup in this thread.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...52051&page=456

Sorry I couldn't link directly to it.
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Old 05-21-2014, 06:42 AM   #11
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You talking about the silver frame with orange snowflakes? That subframe is close, but not the same as the one on ebay.
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Old 05-21-2014, 04:44 PM   #12
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IMHO, having spent quite a bit of time in both, the daily grind is often harder on chassis than racing. Race tracks are generally smoother and more predictable.

Now engines, on the other hand . . .
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:09 PM   #13
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You talking about the silver frame with orange snowflakes? That subframe is close, but not the same as the one on ebay.
OK thanks. To my untrained eye they looked the same!
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Old 05-23-2014, 01:07 PM   #14
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That frame connector is pretty unique.

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Old 05-23-2014, 01:25 PM   #15
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That frame connector is pretty unique.
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Yeah Thats what I thought when I first saw it. Whether they may or may not work is debatable however he's made a nice job of that - nice lines.
Can't work out how the rear brake works unless there's a disc on the other side.
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