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Old 04-14-2012, 05:20 PM   #1
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Taking Advice from Others on Adventures Riding & Equipment

Here's a subject that is sure to get people talking.

There has a been a few threads around complaining about experiences etc.

Quite frankly I'm disappointed that there are.

If you have to complain about something you
  1. Haven't done your research correctly
  2. You have not used someone's advice from someone that Knows.
Now don't get me wrong, there is no shortage of experts on Adventure Riding & Equipment.

But if someone offers you advice they genuinely are concerned about you & your safety and equipment.

So how do you know when to take the advice if your less experienced and are attempting a trip to say.... Camerons Corner or similar...

I for one like helping other Adventure Riders as I have been on the receiving end of some awesome help from people who know what they are on about & genuinely care.

Just saying... and provoking some thought on this subject " Before " you head of in the wild west Unprepared.
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:46 PM   #2
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Here's a subject that is sure to get people talking.


...................... if your less experienced and have low amount of posts on here...............

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Old 04-14-2012, 06:59 PM   #3
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Here's a subject that is sure to get people talking.

...if your less experienced and have low amount of posts on here and are attempting a trip to say.... Camerons Corner or similar...
So... the more posts one has the more experienced rider they are?

Cameron Corner (from anywhere in NSW) is simply riding a few dirt roads... not what I'd call a hard ride by any means. Sure you could die if you stuff up... but that could happen in George Street, Sydney as well.
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:31 PM   #4
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This thread already needs a clean up...

Can you people stop obsesing about post counts?

Craig Heartly has a post count of about 1, I have a 4000+ post count, I know who I would trust more on adventure matters (Hint, it's not me).

But a lot of people do come on here and think they do some pretty awsome rides, then find out there trip to Birdsville, or Cameron Corner really does pale in comparison to what a lot of people do on here...

So thats why big mouth N00Bs might get treated slightly different to members that have been here for years, travlled most of the contenent, and have a few thousand posts.

So can we please stay on subject and forget about your post count, because no one else cares about it...

And I will be deleating this post at 2:30 today just so I am not clutering up this thread with off topic crap.
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There are even Adv riders out there doing it every day and have never heard of this site.

Believe it or not
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:39 PM   #5
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Cant agree with your failed to do research comment Hodgo!
Sometimes you just have to buy and try, all the recommendations mean shit till you try it yourself, thats why there are a 100 different options of everything, horses for courses!
I have ten tents, 6 sleeping bags and 4 sleeping pads and Im still not happy with any off them. Everyone recommends the Exped, I bought one, total crap in my opinion, Now I will get hate mail from the Exped loversCooking gear I lucked out on, first kitn I bought was Trangia, love it, stillusing it bcooking gear sorted yet if I recommend it to you, you may have a total different view and think its crap. Everyone is different,as it should be, atb the end of the day, take all comments on board, but at the end of the day, decision is yours and yours alone
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Old 04-14-2012, 08:22 PM   #6
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Cant agree with your failed to do research comment Hodgo!
Sometimes you just have to buy and try, all the recommendations mean shit till you try it yourself, thats why there are a 100 different options of everything, horses for courses!
I have ten tents, 6 sleeping bags and 4 sleeping pads and Im still not happy with any off them. Everyone recommends the Exped, I bought one, total crap in my opinion, Now I will get hate mail from the Exped loversCooking gear I lucked out on, first kitn I bought was Trangia, love it, stillusing it bcooking gear sorted yet if I recommend it to you, you may have a total different view and think its crap. Everyone is different,as it should be, atb the end of the day, take all comments on board, but at the end of the day, decision is yours and yours alone
I'm a NOOB on this site as well as a recently returned rider. I really appreciate lurking around some of the threads, learning from more experienced riders, but I've also learnt from looking at pictures of well set up bikes & gear. I reckon that I can even contribute a little bit from what I've learnt setting my own bike up & doing a few rides. And of course the screw ups; especially buying the wrong thing.

The recent CCS controversy was more to do with attitudes & interpersonal misunderstandings. Could happen at your local just as easily as in the bush. Like it or not we're judged as a group, I know some people who won't admit to being an "adventure rider", arguing that some people think adv riders are all a pack of "wankers".

By all means research, ask, look, and "suck & see" your gear, practice the skills to keep you from needing someone to recover you. But also take an attitude of having fun and enjoying the people that you meet, they're (in my experience) great people who are there to help you. Same as you'd help them if they needed it.

Keep up the good work & thanks for all the advice & help, Boneman
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Old 04-14-2012, 08:44 PM   #7
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But if someone offers you advice they genuinely are concerned about you & your safety and equipment.

So how do you know when to take the advice if your less experienced and have low amount of posts on here and are attempting a trip to say.... Camerons Corner or similar...

I for one like helping other Adventure Riders as I have been on the receiving end of some awesome help from people who know what they are on about & genuinely care.

Just saying... and provoking some thought on this subject " Before " you head of in the wild west Unprepared.
Post count has NOTHING to do with real world experience! It just means you like to talk a lot on these forums!



I have no doubt there are many people out there, like yourself, who genuinely help (end enjoy helping) others and for that I applaud you!

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Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach.
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Can you people stop obsesing about post counts?
+1 who really gives a flying fsck about post count? Remove it from the forums post haste!
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:16 PM   #8
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So then that would mean that the more bikes you have had the more you know about bikes and the better rider one would be.
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:23 PM   #9
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I have many bikes, so that is clearly not the case...
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:46 PM   #10
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I have a large post count, and can ride ok. But dont take any advice from me about water crossings. Oh nooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:19 PM   #11
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Those who can't teach, become consultants!
easy there us consultants need to eat........although lobster has become expensive lately
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:29 PM   #12
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I have well over 10000 post counts.






That's it, that's all I wanted to add.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:45 PM   #13
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The world is full of self styled experts,some good some wankers.
There is no substitute for common sense, caution when necessary, and weighting whats best for you.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:53 PM   #14
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I have well over 10000 post counts.






That's it, that's all I wanted to add.
Only just, Nev, so it's nothing to brag about. You're a mod and posts are like sheets of toilet paper - you don't know how many you've used until you look across for the one you really need.
Hodgo's right, this is a topic that's bound to get people talking.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:53 PM   #15
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