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Old 04-22-2013, 11:36 AM   #271
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Mine wasn't on there either. Maybe they pack them with the bike un-installed. I had one or found one, put it on. You don't want your battery flying out if the bike flips. I guess.
good point!!!

I think mine had 2. One on the battery and one under the passenger seat just laying there. If I remember right I put it in that awesome tool kit that came with the bike that must be taking up space in somewhere in the garage. Looks like I got yours JG!
If I ever get the urge to try a back flip I'll be sure and double band it!
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:10 PM   #272
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good point!!!

I think mine had 2. One on the battery and one under the passenger seat just laying there. If I remember right I put it in that awesome tool kit that came with the bike that must be taking up space in somewhere in the garage. Looks like I got yours JG!
If I ever get the urge to try a back flip I'll be sure and double band it!
They have to be replaced yearly anyway. I did a thorough cleaning of my bike yesterday and the battery strap is already dry rotted. One year old, almost to the day.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:26 AM   #273
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Lost near all ability to shift coming into work this morning. Shifter is just limp. I can go up without too much difficulty but down shifting is hit or miss and mostly miss. I just rode most of the they way in 4th gear which made starting a stresser for my clutch especially since I am -2 in the rear. I suspect it is the selector return spring even though I did that TSB about 8 months ago. Still under warranty but I've got a trip planned in 2.5 weeks...........

I vaguely recall someone having a shifting problem that was not the return spring and it was something more severe.....am I remember correctly? If so what were the symptoms? Was shifting possible at all?

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Old 04-24-2013, 11:35 AM   #274
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This sounds like my problem.
http://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php/topic,6138.0.html

Dropping it off at the dealer this afternoon...
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:39 AM   #275
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Lost near all ability to shift coming into work this morning. Shifter is just limp. I can go up without too much difficulty but down shifting is hit or miss and mostly miss. I just rode most of the they way in 4th gear which made starting a stresser for my clutch especially since I am -2 in the rear. I suspect it is the selector return spring even though I did that TSB about 8 months ago. Still under warranty but I've got a trip planned in 2.5 weeks...........

I vaguely recall someone having a shifting problem that was not the return spring and it was something more severe.....am I remember correctly? If so what were the symptoms? Was shifting possible at all?
that was me and it took 7 weeks to get fixed. Shift forks, drum and bushings all shot, 1200 or so total miles on bike. They said the heat treating must have been bad and that wiped out the shift mechanisms. They actually had to produce the replacement parts for me. I could up shift just fine, could not downshift at all. Good luck!

Triumph NA was stellar in their support though, I asked for them to extend my warranty since it had been in so long and they did, plus added on alot more for my troubles.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:44 AM   #276
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that was me and it took 7 weeks to get fixed. Shift forks, drum and bushings all shot, 1200 or so total miles on bike. They said the heat treating must have been bad and that wiped out the shift mechanisms. They actually had to produce the replacement parts for me. I could up shift just fine, could not downshift at all. Good luck!

Triumph NA was stellar in their support though, I asked for them to extend my warranty since it had been in so long and they did, plus added on alot more for my troubles.
My bikes has about 15k miles on it. If whatever the problem is takes 7 weeks to get fixed things are going to get ugly.
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:33 PM   #277
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This sounds like my problem.
http://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php/topic,6138.0.html

Dropping it off at the dealer this afternoon...
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Lost near all ability to shift coming into work this morning. Shifter is just limp. I can go up without too much difficulty but down shifting is hit or miss and mostly miss. I just rode most of the they way in 4th gear which made starting a stresser for my clutch especially since I am -2 in the rear. I suspect it is the selector return spring even though I did that TSB about 8 months ago. Still under warranty but I've got a trip planned in 2.5 weeks...........

I vaguely recall someone having a shifting problem that was not the return spring and it was something more severe.....am I remember correctly? If so what were the symptoms? Was shifting possible at all?
When this happened to me (about a month ago) with 13k miles on the clock the Triumph wrench thought it was the return spring (recall item). Turned out to be the pin in this photo (he showed me the pieces after disassembly). Took about 10 days for me to get back on the road. Yet another cinque in the Triumph armor.....

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Old 04-24-2013, 04:09 PM   #278
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When this happened to me (about a month ago) with 13k miles on the clock the Triumph wrench thought it was the return spring (recall item). Turned out to be the pin in this photo (he showed me the pieces after disassembly). Took about 10 days for me to get back on the road. Yet another cinque in the Triumph armor.....
Thanks for info. When your pin broke could you shift at all? As I rode it to the dealership I found I could shift down by lifting the lever with my foot to the position where it would normally rest if it wasn't fucked up. The weight of the mechanism was enough to bring the lever down from up shifts so shifting up was no problem, just sloppy. The shop said he would probably be able to open it up tomorrow.
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Old 04-24-2013, 04:22 PM   #279
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The weight of the mechanism was enough to bring the lever down from up shifts so shifting up was no problem, just sloppy. The shop said he would probably be able to open it up tomorrow.
Sounds more like the spring than anything else.
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Old 04-24-2013, 04:32 PM   #280
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Thanks for info. When your pin broke could you shift at all? As I rode it to the dealership I found I could shift down by lifting the lever with my foot to the position where it would normally rest if it wasn't fucked up. The weight of the mechanism was enough to bring the lever down from up shifts so shifting up was no problem, just sloppy. The shop said he would probably be able to open it up tomorrow.
Exactly the same symptom(s). I actually pulled over in a car dealer's lot and adjusted my shift lever up (quite a bit) to make it to the Triumph dealer 10 miles down the road.

When I examined the broken parts the pin in question appeared to be pressed in. The whole "gear selection shaft" came as a unit-no separate pin. It really did look like a weak design link in the shift unit.

Check out the gear selection shaft from a 2005/06 Tiger 955i. Definitely a different design. BTW: I never had any such problem on my 05 with 50k miles.

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Old 04-25-2013, 10:45 AM   #281
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The shop called. It was the pin that broke. The warranty work has been approved by triumph. The bad news is that the part is back ordered until 5/8. The good news is that knowing I have a trip planned my shop is going to pull the part off of a 2013 model since it’s a quick job and they’ll just put the new(er) part on that bike when it arrives. I’ve bought 3 bikes from them, don’t know if that matters but, MASSIVE props to Performance Cycle Center in Tucson from coming through for me. I asked the mechanic to look and see if he notices any differences in the pin construction from the new bike. Mine is an early build 2011. I wouldn't be surprised if another TSB or recall is created from this part failure since the work is pretty quick and part not too crazy expensive.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:17 PM   #282
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The shop called. It was the pin that broke. The warranty work has been approved by triumph. The bad news is that the part is back ordered until 5/8. The good news is that knowing I have a trip planned my shop is going to pull the part off of a 2013 model since it’s a quick job and they’ll just put the new(er) part on that bike when it arrives. I’ve bought 3 bikes from them, don’t know if that matters but, MASSIVE props to Performance Cycle Center in Tucson from coming through for me. I asked the mechanic to look and see if he notices any differences in the pin construction from the new bike. Mine is an early build 2011. I wouldn't be surprised if another TSB or recall is created from this part failure since the work is pretty quick and part not too crazy expensive.
What makes it fail in the first place?
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:18 PM   #283
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What makes it fail in the first place?
bad design????
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:20 PM   #284
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bad design????
Well, it doesn't break on it's own. Is it just from shifting? Hard shifting, or what? Does hitting the shifter break it?

Is it something unrelated? What puts stress on it to break it?
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:20 PM   #285
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bad design????
It is British after all...

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