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Old 02-09-2013, 04:29 PM   #2191
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But don't forget to add timing belt replacements on the 1190 services compared to the longer lasting timing chain on the 990 engine.
It's not a Ducati ..............no timing belts to change, just good old fashioned cam chains !


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Old 02-09-2013, 05:22 PM   #2192
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From the piece at Motorcyclist online:

"A new “diamond-like coating” on the finger followers helps KTM extend valve-inspection intervals; on the 1190, you check them for the first time at 18,641 miles."

So if that is accurate, then the 15,000km service interval that KTM quotes for the 1190 translates to oil changes every 15,000km (9000 miles) and valve checks every 30,000km (18,000 plus).

No penalty for changing the oil more often. But that sounds very easy to live with.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:22 PM   #2193
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Another rave review

Detailed and laudatory review here from Fastbikes Sweden. Use Google translate.

A provocative quote:

"Well, the fact is that the run on this type of paved, winding mountain roads is a real treat. All days of the week I choose to throttle up on these types of roads with KTM 1190 Adventure instead of any other sport bike on the market ... "

Sounds like they have the road side down, then.

Given how rugged the thing obviously is, that's a big statement.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:09 AM   #2194
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Wondering when we will see the typical raped in the ar$e Australian pricing for the 1190 ? Notice the Americans are getting the new GS for less than $20,000 A$, would be nice if we are not raped by the bike companies. No import duty on bikes, no luxury car tax , so it's just price gouging? I'd be happy if we got the same deal on the KTM that the Brit's do , add $500.00 for shipping and I'm still a happy camper. I can't get a listing off the Aussie WEB sites , I am wondering if they are waiting to gauge demand ?
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:31 AM   #2195
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Can't remember if it was on the website but I phoned the local dealer last week.

As predicted earlier on this thread, Aussie prices will be $21K plus ORC for the base model, and $22K plus ORC for the "R". Bikes expected early next month, IIRC.

The new BMW will be $21,250 plus ORC for the base. That will include ABS, heated grips and tyre pressure monitor, acc to this source.

First Beemers will all be "Dynamic" pack models, with LED headlamp, the active damping and the rest of the electronics. $26,500 on the road. ETA early April, with the first of the base models due early June.

When comparing prices with those overseas, remember that 10 per cent of ours will be tax (GST).

The 'Mericans still get screaming deals tho. They deserve to wait ...
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:53 AM   #2196
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Thanks for the info, still BMW is very pricey even with the GST, which I might add is less than most other countries tax, the Brits pay 15% I believe. The KTM prices seem more fairer than the BMW, perhaps this is because BMW are both manufacturer and importer/distributor ? I'd pony up for a new KTM non R version , think it will be a good replacement for my 1200 Multi Strada !
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:14 AM   #2197
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Wondering when we will see the typical raped in the ar$e Australian pricing for the 1190 ? Notice the Americans are getting the new GS for less than $20,000 A$, would be nice if we are not raped by the bike companies. No import duty on bikes, no luxury car tax , so it's just price gouging? I'd be happy if we got the same deal on the KTM that the Brit's do , add $500.00 for shipping and I'm still a happy camper. I can't get a listing off the Aussie WEB sites , I am wondering if they are waiting to gauge demand ?
I will never ever again complain about the freight charges here
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:17 AM   #2198
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The 'Mericans still get screaming deals tho. They deserve to wait ...
After having about 20 recalls done on my first year F800GS, I don't mind waiting while they work out all the issues in Europe and other places. Although as I read yesterday, KTM had 180 people working on this bike for a total of 130,000 hours, so it may just come out almost perfect.

Based on what I read so far, my prediction is that this bike will really shake up the adventure touring segment. Between the two versions of this bike, 1190 has a potential to please the sport touring "Ducati" crowd, hardcore offroad riders, and anything in between.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:37 AM   #2199
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Sorry pebble35, see timing belt on rear cylinder in cutaway view.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:43 AM   #2200
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Sorry....see timing belt on rear cylinder in cutaway view.
That's a multi-link timing chain.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:27 AM   #2201
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That's a multi-link timing chain.
+1, Double wide timing chain.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:44 AM   #2202
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That's a multi-link timing chain.
Right. Must be, a belt wouldn´t be in the oil section.

What I would like to know is, whether they improved the water pump problem. If there is only one gasket between the oil and water side, oil can be contaminated by water, in case of gasket failure.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:51 PM   #2203
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That's a multi-link timing chain.
Yup timing chain - not belt


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Old 02-10-2013, 12:59 PM   #2204
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+1, Double wide timing chain.
Wow.
I happily stand corrected. I never saw a chain that wide before. It did not look very easy to change either. No wonder.
Looks like this is going to be my next bike.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:27 PM   #2205
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Is that not a 'Hyvo' chain as used in many Honda's of old.

So, valve shims will take a little longer to change then.

Really liked the combined chain/gear set up on the 950/990 when it came to taking the cams out, real easy.
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