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Old 06-12-2013, 08:54 AM   #3511
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I've seen a couple of dyno results quoted in Euro magazine articles.

IIRC they got 132-134hp at the wheel, which was about the same as the Multistrada 1200 made for them.
Factory dynos are different then any dyno machine. Specially new dynos sometimes reads 10 to 15% down or wrong.so if they say this is a true resault I will be sad cause the bike sold with 150 hp not 134hp 145hp at rear wheel seems ok but at crank isn't very good.and this v twins needs some miles on them for full performance.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:09 AM   #3512
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That's in the range of acceptable loss for a production engine from 150hp at the crank - which is where most, if not all, manufacturers take their readings.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:59 AM   #3513
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+ 1. About what you'd expect.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:27 AM   #3514
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Factory dynos are different then any dyno machine. Specially new dynos sometimes reads 10 to 15% down or wrong.so if they say this is a true resault I will be sad cause the bike sold with 150 hp not 134hp 145hp at rear wheel seems ok but at crank isn't very good.and this v twins needs some miles on them for full performance.
From Norwegian Bike mag:
BMW: 116.2 hp/7900 rpm
Ducati: 135.1 hp/9300 rpm
KTM: 141.1 hp/9200 rpm
Triumph: 127.6 hp/8600 rpm

The KTM has good torque from 4000 rpm, then leaves the rest in the dust from 6000 rpm. Could have shown some curves, but some people may make fuss about copyrights.

I guess we will se lots of variable results from bike to bike depending on tolerances and run in. Bad run in would easy loose you a lot of ponies...

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Old 06-12-2013, 11:46 AM   #3515
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I have always heard 7% loss for chain, 10% for shaft so all those numbers sound plausible to me. Different dynos, different days.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:02 PM   #3516
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From Norwegian Bike mag:
BMW: 116.2 hp/7900 rpm
Ducati: 135.1 hp/9300 rpm
KTM: 141.1 hp/9200 rpm
Triumph: 127.6 hp/8600 rpm

The KTM has good torque from 4000 rpm, then leaves the rest in the dust from 6000 rpm. Could have shown some curves, but some people may make fuss about copyrights.

I guess we will se lots of variable results from bike to bike depending on tolerances and run in. Bad run in would easy loose you a lot of ponies...

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These are all from comparision test, ie same dyno, same day..
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:36 PM   #3517
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From Norwegian Bike mag:
BMW: 116.2 hp/7900 rpm
Ducati: 135.1 hp/9300 rpm
KTM: 141.1 hp/9200 rpm
Triumph: 127.6 hp/8600 rpm

The KTM has good torque from 4000 rpm, then leaves the rest in the dust from 6000 rpm. Could have shown some curves, but some people may make fuss about copyrights.

I guess we will se lots of variable results from bike to bike depending on tolerances and run in. Bad run in would easy loose you a lot of ponies...

Audun
130ish is what I would have expected.
I'm a bit surprised by the KTM numbers. 141hp at the wheel from 150 at the crank is a lot, sounds almost as "transmission gains"
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:06 PM   #3518
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While not directed to me, I was speaking of the differences between the 134 test run and the 141 test run. Not the relative differences between the machines in the Norwegian tests. But, even same dyno same day is not the same. For example, morning air is not the same as afternoon air.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:12 PM   #3519
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130ish is what I would have expected.
I'm a bit surprised by the KTM numbers. 141hp at the wheel from 150 at the crank is a lot, sounds almost as "transmission gains"
150 hp is quite normal i guess at the crank. but it should lost that much till it goes to wheel :)
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:44 PM   #3520
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150 hp is quite normal i guess at the crank. but it should lost that much till it goes to wheel :)
Since HP at the crank can't be measured we have to rely on the figures at the wheel; what I meant was that 141hp at the wheel it's quite impressive, specially if you compare it with the 135hp from the Multistrada if you take into account that both bikes are rated at the same HP at the crank.
Don't know how many HP are lost in the KTM transmission but looking at the 141 figure, it can't be that much. That, or it makes more than 150 at the crank.
Anyway, we are talking about the most powerful DS bike out there so you guys can't complain
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:19 PM   #3521
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I get 30 mpg in city wit two up and panniers. I think it's too high. But I am just waiting to pass 1000 miles to see how it's going .
That does sound high - our demo bike (which is probably being ridden 'enthusiastically' by customers) has averaged 48mpg (uk) over the last 600 miles

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Old 06-12-2013, 04:23 PM   #3522
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My 1190Adv is a bit jerky at revs ranging 1500-3000; lots of "humps and bumps" from the engine at about 2000 rpm. How are yours? Not even the dealer knows if this is normal or not. Grrr. Otherwise the bike is awe--some!!
It's normal. This engine doesn't like to run under 3000rpm.

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Old 06-12-2013, 11:07 PM   #3523
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I have the bike for about a month now.i have an one and only issue:when the "low fuel" message is on,the automatic light doesn't turn on even though it is night!!!!when i refill the tank the light is "on" again!has anybody the same problem....?
Anybody with the same problem?
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:29 PM   #3524
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I have the bike for about a month now.i have an one and only issue:when the "low fuel" message is on,the automatic light doesn't turn on even though it is night!!!!when i refill the tank the light is "on" again!has anybody the same problem....?
I will check mine as soon as possible!

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Old 06-13-2013, 04:16 AM   #3525
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That does sound high - our demo bike (which is probably being ridden 'enthusiastically' by customers) has averaged 48mpg (uk) over the last 600 miles

Might be worth having a chat with your dealer


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I think it might be running too lean but I took it to the dealer for 600 miles service and they say everything is ok. I talk them about this but they said I ride it too harsh ? I don't exceed 6000 rpm really :) so I don't know how can it be possible I am thinking if it is some thing to do with the on board computer.
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