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Old 06-16-2013, 12:16 PM   #3556
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Hey Frog uk, there is a KTM mini 50cc ADVENTURE!
I'm sure a comparison would make your 9X0 look even better, suspensiontravel, electronics and so on.
I've owned a 950 SM, 250SXF, 990 SMT and just happends to love my new 1190R. All bikes are what they are. If You dont like them, don't buy them!
I can see that the 9X0 is a better bike for what you do with it and the 1190R is a better bike for what I do with it. I just dont find it in me to bring the 9X0 down because I prefer the 1190R.

The thing is that I ordered my bike after just sitting on it for 5 minutes. When I came home I started to read this thread from the beginning and I almost called the dealer to cancel my order just from reading all the crap in this thread. We have now spent 6000km together and I'm so glad I never made that call!
I agree with you Frog that Sumi should not be sorry. He wrote his honest oppinion and I have full respect for that as well as I hope that You respect mine.

For all You people out there waiting for KTM to produce the "perfect" bike.
I'm, waiting too, because the perfect bike has not been built yet but the 1190 is the closest right now!

Ohhh, I can't wait to see the replies to this!
Hmmmmmm

Good one.

Did you start a new identity to post this?

Man up and post under your real identity mate.
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Old 06-16-2013, 01:04 PM   #3557
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When I bought my 950 Adv I did so because of the basicness of the bike. Sadly I wrote it off after two years and 19,500 miles and then I bought a Buell Ulysses (a much underrated bike) for the same reason. The 1190 has got so many unnecessary featues. Who needs all those thing? I don't. Plus it doesn't look anywhere near as good-looking as my 950 or the uly. Shame because I'd like one.
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Old 06-16-2013, 01:50 PM   #3558
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a dutch video with carlo v hulsen riding a 1190 hard on a small offroad circuit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwYd...layer_embedded

Tried the 1190 on the road nice bike but not impressive.
Had the chance on that day to ride the 1190R off-road.
Not like Carlo of course, but man this bike is cawazy !!
So smooth and massive torque. awesome bike
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:29 PM   #3559
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a dutch video with carlo v hulsen riding a 1190 hard on a small offroad circuit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwYd...layer_embedded
I don't know Dutch, but I'm sure he said the 1190 crushed the 950/990.
There is a new Sheriff in town.

Anyway, the bike looked and sounded good when pushed hard.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:30 PM   #3560
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Yesterday first time so far, ridden the 1190 with a passenger. Not bad, at the end of the day, I asked her, she said that it was comfortable and didn't complain about the pegs' location.
How tall was your passenger ?
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:33 PM   #3561
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How tall was your passenger ?
And had your passenger riden previously on a 990, and if so, how did the 2 bikes compare for her??
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:23 PM   #3562
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Which side stand extension is that looks very good ? Is it ktm or something else ? Anyone knows?
Try this one guys, just got it the other day from www.adventureparts.co.uk and its brilliant!! I had one on my 950 and decided i would treat my 1190 to a shiny new one.

Worth every penny guys!!


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Old 06-18-2013, 04:25 PM   #3563
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Totally agree, i had the exact same feeling when i rode it.
Don't get me wrong 1190 owners, the bike IS amazing...but is does not have the fun factor of my 950, atleast not for me.
It has just one big flaw IMO, the indicator switch is just terrible. Te rest is superb but to smooth and perfect, it feels more like a Jap then an Australian.

I'm just a huge fan of the raw old LC8 engines.
I can tell you if it was built in Australia it wouldn't be anywhere near as good as it is! Now those Austrians are another story!!!!!
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:03 AM   #3564
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Try this one guys, just got it the other day from www.adventureparts.co.uk and its brilliant!! I had one on my 950 and decided i would treat my 1190 to a shiny new one.

Worth every penny guys!!


Wow it does look good too


Oh my god man the price is £50 without vat and delivery it's a little bit too expensive. Touratech and ktm does the same sort of things and they are good as well. But I don't understand how do they charge this much money for two pieces of metal . :(
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Old 06-19-2013, 03:24 AM   #3565
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I know its not cheap, but my thought was the finish, design and fit make it worth it.

I had one on my 950 for years, it never moved, bent or even tarnished. And it was used on mud, grass, sand and soft tar without sinking at all.

The bike weights quite a bit on that stand, and wasn't cheap itself, so protecting it that way was fine to me.

Not knocking other designs, just i had great experience with the previous one and was happy to invest in this.

Completly your choice on your own bike
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:04 AM   #3566
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I know its not cheap, but my thought was the finish, design and fit make it worth it.

I had one on my 950 for years, it never moved, bent or even tarnished. And it was used on mud, grass, sand and soft tar without sinking at all.

The bike weights quite a bit on that stand, and wasn't cheap itself, so protecting it that way was fine to me.

Not knocking other designs, just i had great experience with the previous one and was happy to invest in this.

Completly your choice on your own bike
Well I see your point and it does look really good then the others
I will get it I guess, thanks for sharing;)
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:30 AM   #3567
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I have the touratech and it's always loose. Expensive POS, I don't recommend it, I would go with that cameltoe or would weld a big washer.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=887104
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:59 AM   #3568
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...I don't understand how do they charge this much money for two pieces of metal . :(
Hardly anoyne goes broke providing some utility that appeals to vanity
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:49 AM   #3569
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I have the touratech and it's always loose. Expensive POS, I don't recommend it, I would go with that cameltoe or would weld a big washer.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=887104
I can ditto this. I hated my touratech piece. It was ALWAYS LOOSE! You could hear it rattle as you rode down a smooth road. I could never get it to tighten back up. I tried adding rubber pieces to snug it up and beating it back into shape with a hammer.

I bought a Sasquatch one to replace it. Hasen't moved or bent out of shape at all. Way better built.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:50 AM   #3570
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Wow it does look good too


Oh my god man the price is £50 without vat and delivery it's a little bit too expensive. Touratech and ktm does the same sort of things and they are good as well. But I don't understand how do they charge this much money for two pieces of metal . :(
The Mfg. has to amortise the R & D development and stamping tooling etc. into the price. Some accessory parts require fixtures too. Then, they have to issue drawings, develop a parts list, Parts Catalog, Installation Instructions, packaging requirements, labeling requirements, New Product Announcements to their dealers . . . All while they wait for the Legal Group & Product Liability Group to study and test to make sure it meets World Wide Regulatory laws . . . Which are changing daily. REACH, RoHS, CARB, EPA, etc etc etc.

Then, in many accessories (not this one), they have to stock individual parts to support the products (all expensive).

It normally takes a 20% to 25% margin to break even on overhead expenses (building, utilities, wages, heath care) etc. In some cases, accessories go through a Distributor before going to a dealer

Plus, Freight has become very expensive due to the high cost of fuel.

Therefore, the Distributor will add their margin. Dealers want a 50% margin on their accessories so they can pay their bills. Many dealers discount the bikes hoping to make money on the accessories.

It has become very difficult in the USA because now all 50 States are changing their state Regulations. Now legal Groups have to study all 50 States to make sure everything complies etc.

Woops . . . Sorry for the venting.

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I stuck a Popsicle stick in my Touratech foot to keep it from rattling
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