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Old 11-15-2013, 08:11 PM   #4966
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Old 11-16-2013, 08:46 AM   #4967
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First time wake up to a cold morning today it was 4c the bike had a ice warning and also it took me a little longer to start up . Didn't start(fire)till the 3 rd time. Is that support to happen or what can be problem ? Just cold? Any thoughts ?
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Old 11-16-2013, 03:54 PM   #4968
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First time wake up to a cold morning today it was 4c the bike had a ice warning and also it took me a little longer to start up . Didn't start(fire)till the 3 rd time. Is that support to happen or what can be problem ? Just cold? Any thoughts ?

Your battery is just cold and a bit low. I always find that an Optimate or other make of trickle charger is good in the winter months. Keep it on overnight and it will be good to go every morning..................................unlike me
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:49 PM   #4969
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They're called recalls.

That is correct. On a response from KTM thats what i also told.
That every 2013 can take all the modifications that someone can find on 2014 model. In the uk at least, this does not include any air filter (at the moment).
I want to check if my local dealer here would also put those things before selling me the 2013 model..



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I'm till waiting an official response from KTM.

Could be worse...I hope a friendly response...they have until next week.
The small list that i gave, is official. So changes for the stand.

-new side stand mounting
-side stand and spring
-new bushes for the centre stand

No replacement on the weak point. Just on the mounting point.

Anyway, the central stand is an easy fix with a low cost for everybody. The air filter is more a pain in the ass and costs like 80$ to get a decent one. Plus the effort to reach in the airbox.
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:51 AM   #4970
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oh yeah.. everyone thinks because it has 150hp its goign to be some fragile sports engine that is a pig to ride in the lower end of the rpm, even a dude who stopped me in the street to have a chat at lunch pondered the same..

But its not, its a bike that is not capable of engaging warp speed until your face looks like...


But can also be putted around like a kitten and even in full lock maneuvers , its as smooth as silk
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:54 AM   #4971
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Anybody running on K60s? Trying to figure the right pressure. Just had them put on but the front is quite bumpy at slow speed, fine on highway speeds...
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:25 AM   #4972
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Anybody running on K60s? Trying to figure the right pressure. Just had them put on but the front is quite bumpy at slow speed, fine on highway speeds...
The K60 have a very hard sidewall and they do ride more bumpy because of this.

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Old 11-17-2013, 01:28 AM   #4973
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First time wake up to a cold morning today it was 4c the bike had a ice warning and also it took me a little longer to start up . Didn't start(fire)till the 3 rd time. Is that support to happen or what can be problem ? Just cold? Any thoughts ?
have you had the latest firmware loaded to the bike? It is supposed to make cold starting easier
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:24 AM   #4974
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have you had the latest firmware loaded to the bike? It is supposed to make cold starting easier
When was it released, I didn't have any firmware upgrade so far.
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:56 AM   #4975
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In the uk at least, this does not include any air filter (at the moment).
The air filter is more a pain in the ass and costs like 80$ to get a decent one. Plus the effort to reach in the airbox.
I had a quite perplexing exchange with KTM via Google+, some time ago:
https://plus.google.com/106761503602...ts/VFVgD3cR43T
(Read the comments).

Besides the very strange remarks about how/where this bike should be ridden, they actually say the air filter is fixed for 2014 (but they don't acknowledge the water problem, only sand).
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Old 11-17-2013, 03:05 AM   #4976
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The K60 have a very hard sidewall and they do ride more bumpy because of this.

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Not a direct comparison but I had to run K60s at the max pressure (for the bike) when I used on my S10 to reduce a tendency to tankslap when on the throttle at UK national speed limits . They are imo a cheap tyre at a not cheap price, which are too compromised ie the rear isn't that good off piste, tarmac grip is poor to terrible (front is ok) and even though people claim stellar mileages from them, by the time you get there the rear is as square as a car tyre and you be glad to see the back of it.
On mine I made it to 4.5kmiles with about 2mm left on the rear probably because it spent most of its life lighting up the traction control light and that wasn't because I was being heavy on the throttle. Tyres before were EXP tourances (stuck like poo to a blanket even in sub zero frosts - I didn't realise I had a TC light until I got the K60s). [K60 rant off]
Anyway they may be a rear steering hoot on the 1190 but I suspect they are better mixed use tyres for the KTM (Karoo 3s or even TKC80s) leaving the K60s for old duffers and their GSA bimmers .
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:13 AM   #4977
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I had a quite perplexing exchange with KTM via Google+, some time ago:
https://plus.google.com/106761503602...ts/VFVgD3cR43T
(Read the comments).

Besides the very strange remarks about how/where this bike should be ridden, they actually say the air filter is fixed for 2014 (but they don't acknowledge the water problem, only sand).

Well thats what i was told from KTM UK. Such a problem was not seen in the UK, only in extreme conditions (talking about the filter).

Now what is extreme conditions for them ? Going on a sandy road ? Still i got the email infront of me, there is nothing that mentions the air filter change.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:02 AM   #4978
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I had a quite perplexing exchange with KTM via Google+, some time ago:
https://plus.google.com/106761503602...ts/VFVgD3cR43T
(Read the comments).

Besides the very strange remarks about how/where this bike should be ridden, they actually say the air filter is fixed for 2014 (but they don't acknowledge the water problem, only sand).
It is NOT a desert ride problem only. Any sand will be a problem. A bike broken down in Norway is proof. Yes, the bike was run in sand, but what the hell do you expect KTM? And why do you now pay for "fixes" if there is no problem?
95% of the bikes out there has newer had the airbox inspected, so how can KTM claim there is no problem? Only because they have not broken down after 3-4000 km? You must be joking? The bike should last 100 000 km before valves etc needs replacing, not only through warranty period!

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Old 11-17-2013, 06:11 AM   #4979
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When was it released, I didn't have any firmware upgrade so far.
Had a call from my dealer who want to do the following updates

Fit stronger sidestand spring
Change the centre stand bolts.
Check breather pipe
Replace water pipe if necessary
Upgrade software to enable better starts and also DRL update
Fit foil under seat for heating problem "fix"
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:08 AM   #4980
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Mcboab, I will have to strongly disagree with your assessment of the K-60. I ran them on my Vstrom 1000 and all around performance was excellent as far as handling on all road surfaces. I had no issues on asphalt keeping up to sport bikes on tight twisty roads. The front does rumble at 20 mph and is pretty loud at highway speeds. I did not get the miles out of the rear that most people get due to road surfaces and riding style, as well as the fact that I'm 2 up solo.
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