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Old 12-02-2013, 04:45 AM   #5281
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Did 900km day today on the 1190.

Came to the conclusion that the back wheel needs to be 18inch.

17 inch back wheel on the 'non R' model feels like it is overwhelmed, or just not really dealing with mixed conditions so good.

The R model is the one to buy.
I found that if I'm going to be doing a lot of off-road riding to run 25 psi front and rear. Completely changes the motorcycle.
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Old 12-02-2013, 04:53 AM   #5282
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Did 900km day today on the 1190.

Came to the conclusion that the back wheel needs to be 18inch.

17 inch back wheel on the 'non R' model feels like it is overwhelmed, or just not really dealing with mixed conditions so good.

The R model is the one to buy.
Did you ride the 1190 with standard or knobby tires?
I know 18 are better off road.. but onroad or mixes with knobs should be great too
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Old 12-02-2013, 04:58 AM   #5283
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I found that if I'm going to be doing a lot of off-road riding to run 25 psi front and rear. Completely changes the motorcycle.
Just like I do on my jeep 20-25 psi is a world of difference
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:06 AM   #5284
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I found that if I'm going to be doing a lot of off-road riding to run 25 psi front and rear. Completely changes the motorcycle.

Me too, even a little lower than 25..

The OEM conti trail-attacks tyres take a lotta punishment!

But i get the feeling the chassis wants the bigger wheels.

the R model with a wider rear rim, to take a 160 wide tyre(i'll look them up).....this could be something...

Today was all tarmac, with lotsa crappy roads....fast

The 17 back, on fast tarmac, just feels like it is struggling sometimes..
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:11 AM   #5285
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Me too, even a little lower than 25..

The OEM conti trail-attacks tyres take a lotta punishment!

But i get the feeling the chassis wants the bigger wheels.

the R model with a wider rear rim, to take a 160 wide tyre(i'll look them up).....this could be something...

Today was all tarmac, with lotsa crappy roads....fast

The 17 back, on fast tarmac, just feels like it is struggling sometimes..
Arent most "fast/sports bikes " riding on 17 rear? On tarmac

I thought you were saying 17" on dirt roads
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:16 AM   #5286
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Did you ride the 1190 with standard or knobby tires?
I know 18 are better off road.. but onroad or mixes with knobs should be great too
Thx
Still havent worn out the originals, but i really wanna try the dunlop K850's

http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/...s/DUNLOP/K850/
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:20 AM   #5287
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Did 900km day today on the 1190.

Came to the conclusion that the back wheel needs to be 18inch.

17 inch back wheel on the 'non R' model feels like it is overwhelmed, or just not really dealing with mixed conditions so good.

The R model is the one to buy.
It very interesting to read different riders evaluation of certain things. My local KTM dealer is a small shop and the owner is a former dirt racer and still does hare scrambles. Also did lots of very off road stuff on 950-900's for years. He now has an 1190 Adventure ( non R model ) as a demo which he rides a lot. He has stated to me after several off road rides with his friends on 990's that at least for him he sees non need for the R model and the bigger rim sizes. He also airs down to 25 or so for the ruff stuff. I have a Vstrom 1000 a d must say I have never felt the rear is "overwhelmed" when doing rough terrain. But I'm no racer so I'm not sure how to give feed back on bike feel. All I know is I crank the throte and the bikes goes forward.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:25 AM   #5288
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Arent most "fast/sports bikes " riding on 17 rear? On tarmac

I thought you were saying 17" on dirt roads
I like the standard 1190 on the dirt, but....

I'm suspecting strongly that 21' and 18' wheels is what the chassis wants...
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:16 AM   #5289
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It very interesting to read different riders evaluation of certain things. My local KTM dealer is a small shop and the owner is a former dirt racer and still does hare scrambles. Also did lots of very off road stuff on 950-900's for years. He now has an 1190 Adventure ( non R model ) as a demo which he rides a lot. He has stated to me after several off road rides with his friends on 990's that at least for him he sees non need for the R model and the bigger rim sizes. He also airs down to 25 or so for the ruff stuff. I have a Vstrom 1000 a d must say I have never felt the rear is "overwhelmed" when doing rough terrain. But I'm no racer so I'm not sure how to give feed back on bike feel. All I know is I crank the throte and the bikes goes forward.
He must have some (non R models) to sell.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:38 AM   #5290
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Do ktm have an on line dealer service data base? You could search that.
Yes we do. I've searched all technical documents online and no such "issue" is documented anywhere. It should also be noted that there are no other technical documents on the 1190 either.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:05 AM   #5291
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KTM Australia supplied customers with a FunnelWeb foam prefilter.

I wonder why they did that?
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:09 AM   #5292
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Yes we do. I've searched all technical documents online and no such "issue" is documented anywhere. It should also be noted that there are no other technical documents on the 1190 either.
Thanks for doing this... It is nice to have someone on the forum that has access to this information and is willing to share it.

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Old 12-02-2013, 10:36 AM   #5293
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KTM Australia supplied customers with a FunnelWeb foam prefilter.

I wonder why they did that?
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:52 AM   #5294
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Call Ktm North America and ask

The person I spoke to had no idea about the air box " issue" or any changes that have occurred from 13-14. People might want to call to make people aware
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:57 AM   #5295
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Yes we do. I've searched all technical documents online and no such "issue" is documented anywhere. It should also be noted that there are no other technical documents on the 1190 either.

Thanks for all the dealer info you share!! Many of us here realize you don't have a hidden agenda behind your facts.

Thanks!
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